can anybody ID these parts?

Mark,

I believe that the "Junction Block" used on the early '67s is a piece of aircraft terminal strip. I may be able to get a new piece that is extremely close to the original piece. Let me know if you are interested and we can talk about it.

Thanks,
Eric

 

Factory AC

 

Mark,

Yes, that is my car that you saw in Mustangs and Fords. Thanks for the compliments on the story. Thanks for the appreciation/compliment on my driving the car. Getting to drive the car is the best part of owning it. My wife and I drove it to a car show this past Saturday; about a 45 mile round trip. I had at least half a dozen people at the show ask where my trailer was parked. When I told them that I drove the car to the show, they said I was insane. I just laughed and asked, "why own it if you are not going to fully enjoy it?"

When I get home tonight I will take a picture or two of the junction block(s) and post them for you to see.

Thanks,
Eric

 

Mark,

Here are some pictures for you.

The first picture is of my broken original junction block.
The second picture is of the new junction block.
The third picture is of the new junction block installed in my car.

I believe that the new junction block is virtually indistinguishable from the original junction block.

Let me know what you think.

Eric

 

Hi folks! The junction block on the early cars is aluminium colored and was only on early cars.Later build used an off the shelf terminal block from a truck & lincoln and has a C5VB-14448-A part number.It is a brown bakelite material,and is larger than the early type(longer).The other part you have described is not makeing much sense.Luckily Shelby was not useing any lucas parts on 67 Shelbys.They had enough trouble with Lucas in the early years with Cobra Production.Please let us know what wires lead to it,so we can figure out what it is used for.
Thanks P.D.

 

Mark,

I have sent you a Personal Message.

Thanks,
Eric

 

PD I've had a fair number of these (think there is still two or three in the shop) none have been brown but instead black plastic/bakeolite

JEff

 

The early 2 ear terminal block is battleship gray in color .It was the hardest part to find for 0001. I had to buy 0008 to get one. I hope Eric has installed the wafer thin reddish brown resin circuit board insulater under the junction block ,the insulater was installed at Shelby to insulate the bottom of the metal stud from the metal of the apron it is screwed to, without it you are risking a catostrophic electrical fire caused by the full amphereage of the electrical system shorting out against the metal of the apron. The round relay in the picture is a added on auto parts store part probably to activate the horns because of a ill working steering wheel horn button. Hope this helps. Bob

 

Bob,

Great to hear from you on the forum. We can all benefit from your expertise.

Well, you made me go out to the garage and compare the original broken junction block with the one that is currently on my car.

The back side of the stud/terminal on the original piece is slightly recessed in the insulating material; but it is indeed exposed - not covered. I do not remember the "insulating wafer" that you describe being on the backside of the block when I took it off the car years ago. Maybe I got lucky that there had not been a problem........

The insulating base on the junction block that is now on my car is slightly thicker than the original. This is because the back side of the stud/terminal is enclosed in the insulating material. So, there is no need for the "insulating wafer" that you describe. It might not be original, but visually it is extremely accurate/close, performs the same function, and is in fact safer. It even has the band saw blade marks on each end just like the original piece.

Thanks,
Eric

 

I just wanted to point out that the bolt in this junction block is unplated natural copper. And as to magnify the difficulty of finding that, it's fine threaded. Washers used were natural copper also. (#0036)

 

The junction block should have a resin wafer between the block and the inner fender, and from the far right picture looks installed upside down...


Mark

 

MarkBoss,

Your comment about the orientation of the junction block on my car is incorrect. The junction block is installed in the correct orientation on my car. This can be verified by looking at the engine compartment pictures of my car in the February 1967 issue of Road and Track and the March 1967 issue of Sports Car Graphic.

Thanks,
Eric

 

Mark,

Thanks for the compliments and support. I appreciate it and I wish you the best of luck in getting your car completed and back on the road. Appreciating these cars for their original purpose TO BE DRIVEN is what it is all about in my book. I do not put a ton of miles on it, but it does get driven during nice weather. Yes, I do show my car. Is it a concourse correct perfectly restored museum piece? No, it is not. But I tell you what; it cleans up and "shows" about as well as any other Shelby that I have seen over the past 28 years. What my car may lack in concourse correctness, is more than made up for with its documented history of being the first production G.T. 500 built by Shelby American. My wife and I drove the car to a show this past weekend. It had a steady stream of admirers parading past it for the entire day. The show was at a Ford dealership and the owners parked a new 2007 G.T. 500 next to my car. The "first" one and a "new" one side by side. It made for a great display. We took three awards at this show: 1st Place in the Shelby club class, People's Choice, and The President's Award/Overall Show Stopper as selected by the President of the Ford dealership. As I said, it is not perfect but it shows quite nicely and to top things off; I had the pleasure of driving it home.

I appreciate the true "competition show cars" and what their owners have done to get their cars to that level. However, in my book that does not give these people any right to criticize and rip on cars owned by other people. Appreciate the cars for what they are now and be happy that they are still around to be enjoyed.

Thanks,
Eric

 

http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/images/1967/350/67_350_165_d.jpg

Looks like the small attaching screw is at the top, same as my car....in the above orig photo....later photo, shows small attaching srew covered by wiring...

 

MarkBoss,

Well then, it seems that your car and the car in the NVSAAC photo were done differently than my car. As I stated before, the current positioning of the junction block in my car is just as it is in the photos taken 40 years ago when my car was road tested by Road and Track and Sports Car Graphic.

Based on these vintage/period photos, the positioning/orientation of the junction block in my car is correct.... end of story.

Eric

 

No problem...
One thing about these cars is that no two are alike....especially depending on what time of year they were made....

I have a copy of that road and track here somewhere!!