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Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by Bob Gaines, Nov 1, 2007.

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  1. amyb

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    Gary, I just answered this on the other site and in PM. I am not all things Shelby. There is a Shelby Licensing group with a president. I knew about the canceling of the license, I did not cancel the license. I am starting the new club, I was always starting the new club, dedicated to the new cars and welcoming the vintage.

    I DID NOT ASK FOR ANY PAPERWORK BACK, and I dare anyone to prove I did.


    Amy
     
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    This is correct, I have already started the registry for new vehicles, it is separate from the club. no money is involved and I will maintain it with company employees and partners.


    Amy
     
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    I think what scares me the most about all of this is where it will all end. If SAI wants to start a new club, then that is great. But wanting all of the records returned has got to raise the hairs on the back of your neck! Believe me folks, SAI is after that paperwork!! And if Kopec doesn't want to comment on it because of ongoing litigation, I'll say it again, BELIEVE ME FOLKS, SAI is after that paperwork.
    And then, what is the domino effect. Are all the regions of SAAC next?
    If you have the word "SHELBY" on your letterhead are they coming after you and or your local club??
    Did you notice how hostile their rep was on here the other night, then the next morning was all nicey- nice, wanting to work together , so we all come under one roof (THEIRS). Smoke and Mirrors are in vogue here to put us all to sleep until it is too late. Ford did it with all the vendors carrying the Mustang banner, now Shelby has followed suit. Be afraid my friend, they may be demanding a retro-active fee on that 1979 Shelby T-shirt you wear to swap meets.

    Note to Rick Kopec: change the name of your national club to:

    __Snakes Against Amy's Control __ .....that way you can keep your same initials.
    :confused:
     
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    Oviosly you guys continue to read what you want, I will not be insulted on this site in this manner, you want a conversation I can be reached in emails. This is amazing that a grown man could write such a thing.

    I AM NOT SHELBY LICENSING, I DID NOT ASK FOR ANY DOCUMENTS BACK, READ WHAT IS WRITTEN.

    ENJOY YOUR DAY

    Amy
     
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    Gee, I would love to discuss this with you, but since I am currently in litigation wirth SAAC, Rick advised me not to speak to SAI !:thumbsup:
     
  6. shelbyman2351

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    Hi Amy, if you didn't, then who did? You may know who did since these documents will eventually be controlled by your club. Or are you-in such a high position with SAI- unaware that these important documents are trying to be retrieved? So we know now YOU are not asking for these docs back. Is someone else affiliated with SAI want them back? Sometimes you have to ask a person the "correct" question to confirm your suspicions.What is your answer Amy? If you say NOBODY from SAI is asking Or demanding the docs be turned over then I will take you on your word.Thanks. Gary
     
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    GAry, if you read the early posts this is something Carroll initiated. With his licensing group, he is unhappy with how things run. yes, i knew about this, I am the one who told Bob, no I didnt see the letters and I didn't know about the documents.

    The licensing CSL, it has a president, theIroup is called CSL, It is in LA, I am SAI, I am in vegas. SAI is not involved in the license with SAAC. SAI is starting its own club for new cars we build, and welcoming vintage. I have been keeping the registry for all new cars since built. That was never with SAAc.

    If you want to blame me for this, go right ahead, I am here trying to repond. all the info that currently exists is now out there.

    As I have told others I will call Carroll and discuss this issue with him personally.


    But I will not be insulted but people on this site who can't communicate in an adult and civil manner


    Amy
     
  8. 68GT500-Aussieland

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    Hi Amy,

    I have a question.

    In many of your responses you have stated "dedicated to the new cars and welcoming the vintage."

    Why is this so? Why wouldnt it be dedicated to all cars Shelby? There have been none of these concerns put to rest as yet and this is where I feel the bad blood is coming from.

    If it wasnt for the vintage Shelby's, there would be no new cars (Shelbys). Heritage, history is everything. As you can see there is a strong passion behind the vintage Shelbys from their owners. As you know, they are valuable and from my own point of view I dont know of any other hobby where your passion is also an investment. (passion before investment)

    Can you please advise why it appears that Team Shelby are only interested in the new cars?

    If I'm reading between your lines, if Team Shelby did not ask for the old paperwork (another entity has) this entity will be taking on the vintage cars?

    Regards

    Rohan
     
  9. amyb

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    rohan, I sent you long response via email I am in the car.

    the team Shelby club is for all Shelby owners and enthusiasts. The registry is geared to new and welcomes the vintage. It is hard to keep explaining in posts
     
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    Ladies and Gentlemen, Attacking AMY with question after question that she has repeatedly answered to the best of her ability is pointless. she has already stated her official position that SHE and SAI did not and do not have control over "Carroll Shelby Licensing". I have also stated that Amy and VIP's at SAAC are working towards some type of resolution. be patient. go watch a Football game or better yet, Drive your Shelby somewhere and have a nice day. I assure you that Amy is not a Villain and I will start deleting posts that are negative and counterproductive to this resolution coming about.- Dave :angry:
     
  11. 68GT500-Aussieland

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    David, in no way was my question an attack on Amy - it was a mere question. I feel she has encouraged questions.

    Amy has asked me to post her reply as she is in the car.





    > Amy Boylan <amyb@shelbyautos.com> wrote:
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    > Rohan, I started the new club for the vehicle because Saac had the
    > old. I never gave Saac the new info it was my vision to support the
    > new because I dont think does enough for its members as a club. I
    > want to offer more. The vintage people can join I would welcome them,
    > the club and registrys are all separate, the club welcomes all I
    > should have been more explicit. Its hard to keep it easy and
    > understanding on the forums even I get confused. I see you posted in
    > the site could you post my response? I am in the car.
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    > Thanks
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    > Sent from my iPhone
     
  12. tesgt350

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    Hi 68 GT500, If you have read all of the Posts from the beginning, you will see that the same questions keep getting asked over and over. Yes, she has said that she will answer all questions, but the same ones keep getting asked.

    Will all new people just now seeing this Thread PLEASE read all of the Posts from the beginning so as to understand what is happening. Please.

    I am sorry if I seem up set, but DavidDalton is right. Amy is NOT the villion and neither is Shelby. I don't think it is about the Money, I think it is about the Future. I am sure back in the 70's when SAAC was forming, people were saying it wont last. Personally, I am glad it did and I hope Team Shelby lasts as well. All good things take time.
    David
     
  13. shelbyman2351

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    Thanks Amy. So I am to assume that it was CSL who wants the records back from SAAC. Correct? That is all I want to know is who is dragging SAAC into litigation over these documents? Amy, If the documents return are they going to CSI and/or the TeamShelby? Somehow through all the posts I still haven't figured out yet WHO wants the docs back? Must have missed some posts. Gary
     
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    DANGEROUS ground Dave. I am a Shelby enthusiast that has owned these cars since the early 80's. I do not have say in any club or do I have any motive for my opinions(other than to better the hobby). Some people here have a financial stake in this subject. To delete posts that YOU deem negative flies in the face of what free speech and these message boards are about. Let the readers decide what is true and what is not. Unless someone goes overboard then I think you should not delete posts. Now I am wondering if I am reading everything. You obviously agree and support Amy in her endeavor which is cool. I am neutral and now am I to think that everything I read is slanted towards TeamShelby? I am excited about this new organization but am also cautious. Gary
    PS. By the way I did go watch a football game; Lions 44 Denver 7:thumbup: Don't get my GT350 vert out too much because of its value and my other GT350 is at the painters so I can't go drive but wish I could.
     
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    I have NOT deleted one Post on this topic. I was simply following procedural guidelines as a Moderator on this Forum. I have been one on this site almost since it's inception. I am all about Freedom of Speech. I also own Guns and think everybody who has a right to should as well. I do not think because I own guns that I should shoot people just because they aggravate me. but that said, I do not believe that just because somebody signs up on this forum (which is a privately owned entity that has certain rules and guidelines that we all agree to when signing up) it gives them the right to unjustly accuse people of misconduct, Crimes against Humanity, or simply attempting to aggravate people out of boredom! Which has been going on for two days on this and many other sites with regard to AMY Boylan getting treated Rudely when it is really just uncalled for. If you can go back through the last several Postings I have made and can maybe read between the lines a little bit, you may start to see that I am attempting to Quell a potentially Explosive situation. Not create one. I am a Proud SAAC member. I do not want to see C.S. no longer recognize them and Vice Versa. SAAC can and will move forward no matter the outcome of this current situation. But it will be like Santa Claus no longer wanting to be involved or recognized at Christmas. "No, sorry kids, Get off my lap! I am sitting down because I am tired not because I want to hear you tell me what you want for Chissakes!!" Imagine That. And yes I do like the ideas proposed by TEAM SHELBY as well. I suppose maybe in my show of support for Amy and TEAM SHELBY, some people may see it as me not supporting SAAC. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I have seen people also voice the things that they do not like about SAAC. they did so in a much more respectful fashion and indicated that changes are needed but they still belong to the club. SAAC has a 30 year Head Start on "Team Shelby". that is many years and generations of members who have made SAAC what it is. I am SAAC. and so is every person who joins and renews again every year. this is why people are taking this situation so Personal, myself included. It feels like an attack on all of us to hear that the guy we all worshipped for all these years no longer wants to be our Hero. I am personally doing everything in my power to change his decision. by asking people to knock off the Rude B.S. and Negative comments that do not help this situation, I am doing it to help the Effort to bring people together a success.
     
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    I have read all of the replies...I have owned just about every year vintage Shelby and I absolutely love that Shelby is again aligned with Ford. In all of this club posturing, me..me..:We have been here longer...." etc. is really starting to make me sick. I have been to several conventions and enjoy the Shelby marque more than any other classic. For the SAAC club to snub Shelby as was stated by Amy, is inconceivable and shameful.

    It is Shelby's name, and legacy. If he wants to do something, then it is his right to do so. PERIOD. I never understood why people always complain about him selling his signature....selling popcorn...selling whatever. Did we all forget that we live in the USA...Home of capitalism...free enterprise...etc????

    Try this...reach into your wallet, your shirt pocket or reach out to your business card holder on your desk....go ahead and read it...I BET IT DOES NOT SAY "Carrol Shelby" as in "The Man".

    His name, his legacy....I don't care what he does as long he stays involved with the industry.
     
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    I would like to know how he has been snubbed by the SAAC.
    That would probly clear up this whole arguement.
    Vern
     
  20. daltondavid

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    Truth be told Vern, it would only complicate matters further. to me and many others it is Bad business to continue this campaign and just plain Stupid Silly!!! Hopefully the Grown Men involved here, (who at one time were great friends) need to put aside their personal anger and hurt feelings and straighten the matter out. Thousands of people are affected by a Legends decision to disavow them over a disagreement with one or two Men. believing that the Court of Public Opinion is where this matter should be decided only shows me to be a SERIOUS lapse in Judgement! Internal Affairs need to be handled internally. Both parties need to "Do the Right Thing!" :angry:
     
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