1967 Running Production Changes

Yep, the two piece nose with the tonque and groove seam meeting in the center front is yet another strange running change.

I wanted to make a slight addition to PD's post in that the the gray terminal block is in fact a bakelite or phenolic material like the black C5VE block. It does seem very hard but brittle. I had to fix a few.The gray block was apparently a aftermarket part suspected to have come from the aviation community.Each block was cut from a long strip as the rough cut witness marks on the sides testify to. Great thread guys.

 

Roy,

Number 1, hopefully some of the other folks will speak up.

Number 2, sounds good to me.

Number 3, you are correct that you covered that with your item number 23. Sorry, I just read right over it.

Thanks,
Eric

 

Yes two different junction blocks - gray and black is the easiest way to identify them though there are shaped very differently

Leave the steel wheels out IMHO at this point.

As for the split front end you must not have attended last year in Utah or missed #803 in one of the buildings

 

Patty, that is not correct, it was a running Shelby change.

Chrome, or black oil breather caps on GT-500s can also be mentioned (Ford change) as well as the different steering wheels used (Shelby). You could also mention the battery hold down bracket as well? (Ford).

Kenny

 

I suspect this is a Ford thing, but what about cooling fans? Mine (#2751) has a clutch fan (ie viscous coupling), and I'm pretty certain it's original. It's a California car; originally fitted with a Thermactor system so this might have something to do with it?

Any thoughts?

David

 

I think we should have steel wheels included as they were
available in both 15x6.5 and 15x6.0. Remember I have seen
a letter from SA saying that all 67 cars delivered from a certain
date will have the 6" replacing the 6.5" due to difficulties in supply.
My 67 owner's manual specifies 6.5".
Texas Swede

 

67 GT350 cars with A/C had the clutch and fan .The fan is a standard mustang fan blade for air car I don't have the number handy. The clutch is a special Shelby unit and has a longer shaft then the BB version just like a regular mustang unit.The assemblyline GT350clutch also has a C7ZX prefix in the engineering number.The assembly line clutch was not serviced and when replaced the stock mustang one was used.

 

Bob... typing faster than I am tonight

The fan clutch is listed as C7ZX-8A616-A

And as Bob mentioned there is no call out on the add/delete sheets for a fan which would indicate that the stock fan for the application (A code, with AC) would not have been replaced

 

The clutch fan is right for your car.The 67 GT350 thermactor w/A/C car has the weirdest looking brackets I have ever seen . Some examples I have seen even were painted battleship gray instead of black. Can you post some pictures?

 

Bob... are you sure the ones you saw were untouched?

Which brackets would have been odd?

If its the one for the idler pulley (thing that is the "odd" one) I've got a old picture of #2932. The bracket is a lighter color than the other black parts (had not noticed it until you mentioned it) but looks pretty straight forward. Does not have the Thermactor pump air cleaner with the elbow and the return to the Air cleaner like on other 350's but noticed a couple of different versions on other cars with Thermactor. May be a running change ... again

 

The correct fan engineering number, I believe is C6OE-G stamped on the blades.
I have one in my garage somewhere.

Kenny

 

First it was a thermactor(smog) 67 GT350 car with A/C also . How rare is that?!!! . I wish I had taken pictures. I might have it on video which I was doing before digital. Maybe I just wasn't used to seeing all that confusion under the hood of a small block what with all the smog parts of a 67 style system and A/C also. It seemed like the upper air conditionig compressor brkt and the way the idler pulley was mounted on that brkt looked a little strange. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you could get a regular 1967 289 Hipo Mustang with air let alone a CA smog car.

 

...but #2751 is non AC! (Z67202F8A02751)

David

 

Sorry to be the cause of confusion .Since we were talking air car clutch fans I assumed your car was a Factory air car. I didn't automatically look your car up in the SAAC registry. If your 67 GT350 did not have air it normally would get the fixed fan . Look on the flange of the clutch were it bolts to the pulley and see if you can read any engineering numbers.Please report back with your findings. There were extra things that went with A/C or thermactor. If you had ether or both you got the upgraded 24F battery instead of the standard 22F. Hmmmm. Batteries ,yet another difference.

67 GT500 base battery -24F with yellow caps . With A/C or Thermactor or both - 24F with red caps . GT350 base battery 22F with yellow caps. With a/c or thermactor - 24F with red caps.

 

Bob Gaines, Jeff Speegle, Dave Mathews, and any other experts,

Please take a look at item number 1 in my post #75 in this thread. Is my information about grills correct or is it incorrect? Please let all of us know what you think.

Thanks for your time,
Eric

 

Very good memory as usual Bob. No telling how many pictures I would have now if I had had a digit camera over the last 30 years.


The AC bracket was "home made" (not a standard Ford part) and it was the idler pulley that appeared to be the problem. They appear to have mounted it behind the bracket rather to the front like "normal" Ford products.



And there were no AC 67 Hipo built from what I understand other than the Shelby's. A lot of the "adjustment" was the lower pulley I think.

But for the general subject of changes in 67 I think should be limited to parts and features found on every car. IF we start chancing down the options we're going to be over our heads at this point IMHO

 

Hi folks! Wow have we added up some stuff!! A quick thanks to Bob--I really meant to say that the gray terminal block looks metal.And for the question on taillamp panels to clarify the raised section is around the lamps themselves which I think is a non original part,and it looks more like the type used in 68 for lack of a better description.The early 67 taillamp panel does not wrap over the sheet metal flange of the trunk opening,and it is held on the car with four fine thread studs visible on the sides of the fuel filler tube,and on the outer edges near the 1/4 panel extensions.Later types were bonded and riveted with the upper edge flanged to extend into the trunk opening and this helped prevent the sagging that often occurs with the first type described.The clutch fan topic is interesting..and to add to what Bob has mentioned-the thermactor equipped cars may have had clutch fans..Ford mentions this as a way to allow an engine to reach operating temperature sooner..which a smogged car needs to work in harmony with the thermactor.Very few of us have seen any smogged cars and somewhere I have pictures of one from a convention I'll try to find them..And Thanks to Jeff for the pictures to show the split nose..I wonder if he noticed the sealed beams were not indexed properly?One last thing..the only 67 K code cars to have a/c from the factory are Shelbys and there are less than 100!I will try to get exact info from Kevin Marti if possible