1967 Running Production Changes

Sorry to have taken such a long time to get back with this info. I have at last got the engineering numbers from the fan and clutch flange. They are -

Clutch flange - E-C6OE C
Fan blades - H-C501 A

I believe them to be original-fit parts.

Any thoughts?

David

 

The standard fan did NOT get a clutch instead a aluminum spacer was used with the standard 4 blade fan. The A/C and possibly thermactor equipped cars utilized a fan and clutch arrangement. FYI the clutch carried a C7ZX engineering number from the assembly line. The replacement was standard Mustang. The fixed fan spacer had no engineering number on the part and had to be measured.

 

Time to move this thing along. The date for the 2010 registry for the GT 350's/500's has been announced and it would be perfect timing to get this information included.
Where do we start the summary at?

 

Hi to Roy and all! I was talking to Dave Mathews during the convention about information,and running changes,and he says to mail it to him,and he can then add it to the next registry.This is a giant and very time intensive project for all registrars,and the club.It is ongoing and correct information is the most important.Things that can be backed up by document are vital.If you have any of the Ford documents from your car or Kevin Marti they will help him as well.Remember any information that is provided helps,and you dont need to be a club member.Thanks to everyone that contibuted to Roy's thread,and to Roy for organizing everything.Next step is to get Dave and Kevin working together and we will have a huge amount of information....and a new registry to read all about it.
p.d.

 

Great thread! Sorry I'm chiming in a little late.

A couple small typos to the Changes/Corrections Form Dated 3/9/08 at http://www.s-techent.com/1967_Running_Production_Changes.htm

1.15 Need 2-point roll bar variation
4.12 Spelling (need “C”)

A few things that have been mentioned in the thread or I thought of that I didn't see on the list:
Body color rear bumper guards with rubber inserts
Ford Special Performance Vehicle tag on door
Heater motor shield
Battery shield
Gas caps: FoMoCo early/Autolite late
GT500 PCV variations: air cleaner vs intake
GT500 fuel filter variations: remote vs integral w fuel pump



Here is a picture of the Z-shaped battery hold down bracket discussed in post #119:




Interesting that the assembly line photo shows early inboards, painted headlight rings, magstars but LATE big letter Speedways. Also looks like the car has an unpainted aircleaner lid and cream-colored filter. Kind of odd that the nose hasn't been painted yet...



Here is the info on my GT500, certified as a Survivor at SAAC 31 (#1547, completed 4-15-67 per Shelby PO. I got the car in 1998 with 39,361 miles. It has been off the road since 1975 based on the inspection sticker on the windshield):

1.0 Shelby American Production Changes
1.1. Headlights
• Inboard
1.2. Body Assembly, Front (Nose)
• One Piece w/chop gun fiberglass backing
1.3. Grilles
• Two-piece, straight, inboard headlights
1.4. Headlight Trim Bezels
• Chrome
1.5. Headlight Buckets
• “Late style” bolted to plate
1.6. Grille Emblem
• Installed
1.7. Air Extractor (Upper Scoops) Lights
• Not installed
1.8. Hood Pin Lanyards
• Attached to grille
1.9. Brake Scoops
• Functional (lower duct)
1.10. Tail Light Bezels
• Studded
1.11. Rear Tail Light Panel
• Curved (or Raised)
1.12. Gas Cap
• Convex (Curved)
1.13. Front, Rear, and Side Emblems
• Embossed
1.14. Exhaust Trim
• No trim
1.15. Roll Bar
• Four-point
1.16. Inner Quarter Panel Rollbar Rubber Trim (“Donuts”)
• Installed
1.17. Roll Bar Cover
• Molded
1.18. Fold-down Seat Latch Trim Plates
• Installed
1.19. Hoods
• All fiberglass
1.20. Deck Lids
• All fiberglass (TRUNK LAMP SECURED TO HINGE BRACE)
1.21. Amp Meter Junction Block
• Black
1.22. Amp Meter Wiring
• Vinyl tube
1.23. Tail Light Wiring Harness Cover
• Enclosed plastic sheath (vinyl tubing)
1.24. Optional Wheels
• KH MagStar
1.25. Tires
• Small Lettered "GOODYEAR" (BASED ON SPARE IN TRUNK)
1.26. Sill Plate
• Two Line Shelby American (Shelby American Inc., Los Angeles California)
1.27. Gauge Pod Center Plate
• w/ mounting screws
1.28. Underdash Seat Belt Warning Light
• Not installed
1.29. Steering Wheel
• w/ long tabs (Tabs are ~5/8”)
1.30. Exhaust Tips
• Two piece (welded)
1.31. SAI VIN
• stamped w/o "Z"

2.0 G.T.350 Production Changes NA

3.0 G.T.500 Production Changes
3.1. Air Cleaner
• Sandcast, non “COBRA” lettered

4.0 Ford Production Changes
4.1. Upholstery
• Comfort Weave (Deluxe)
4.2. Fuel Line
• Down drive shaft tunnel
4.3. Windshield Washer
• Bag reservoir
4.4. Oil Filler & Breather Caps
• Black painted
• "FoMoCo" stamped (ON INTAKE)• "AUTOLITE" stamped (ON VALVE COVER)
4.5. Standard Steel Wheels
NA
4.6. Rear valence
• GT – with exhaust cutouts
4.7. Battery Hold Down
• w/extra bracket
4.8. Steering Column
• w/ "rag joint" (NON TILT)
4.9. Door Panel Trim (Brushed Aluminum) (MUST CHECK)
• flat forward edge
• curved forward edge
4.10. Fold-down Seat Latch
• w/ latch cover plate
4.11. Front Seat Trim (MUST CHECK)
• Attached w/ two screws
• Attached w/ three screws
4.12. Battery Apron Reinforcement (MUST CHECK)
• Narrow
• Wide
4.13. Horn Date Code
• Metal stamped
4.14. Rear End Housing
• W/fill plug in back of housing (MUST CHECK)
• W/O fill plug



Additionally, the car has:
Mustang floor mats
Body color rear bumper guards with rubber inserts
Ford Special Performance Vehicle tag on door
Heater motor shield
Battery shield
Gas caps: FoMoCo early/Autolite late (MUST CHECK)
GT500 PCV variations: air cleaner
GT500 fuel filter variations: integral w fuel pump


Lots of detailed pictures of the car on my website at http://members.cox.net/1967shelbygt500survivor/

 

Thanks for the imput but I felt like I should mention a few things to lessen confusion.
The roll bar is listed as 4 point because of the attachment points on the floor and in the roof. The body color bumpers are on all 67 Shelby's so no production change. The Ford tag on your door was supposed to be deleted on all 67 Shelby's and was mistakenly left on so neat as it is it is not a production change. The heater motor was on all of the 67 Shelby's (even GT350)to begin with . Some were taken off per the Ford engineering drawings but most were left on . The transport tie down brackets in the back were also supposed to be taken off but know most were left on so this is not a production change. The battery shield was supposed to be only on Shelby's with Thermactor(smog) and or air conditioning (some mistakes happen) per the engineering specs but it was not a production change. The GT500 only had one kind of fuel filter and it was on the fuel pump so no production change. The tire issue was discussed in a earlier thread if you care to look it up but the clip note version is you have it backwards from how they appeared in production , large letter tires are only on the early cars aprox the first 288 per factory memos. The small letter tire was used from that point until the end of 67 production. Great pictures on your web site. I wanted to mention that I find the extremly early air cleaner base and top inconsistant with a car built on April 15. I noticed from the evidence in the picture the intake appears to have been taken off and reinstalled ,maybe the base and lid were changed at the same time for some reason . The only other big thing was the rubber 65/66 trunk mat that appears to have been put in place of the jute back stitched corner 1967 style used in the San Jose produced Shelby's. Just some observations put forth for discussion. The best of luck with the sale of your car . I hope you get your price. Bob

 

I appreciate you closing the loop on a couple of those items, Bob. Good point, it's important to keep in mind the difference between running and individual car production variations. Any comments on:

Gas caps: FoMoCo early/Autolite late
GT500 PCV variations: air cleaner vs intake

Yes, I had the intake off the car to fix a nagging oil leak (see blue silicone sealant visible at front). #1547 has an interesting blend of early and late running production variations with a few neat individual production variations like the door tag, battery heat shield, 66 style trunkmat and trunk light with the fiberglass decklid. We are lucky that a few cars like this were taken off the road early in their life to help answer questions like these. Just about everything discussed in this thread can be seen in the pictures of the car on the website.

Regards,
Joe Sikora

 

Joe, yes the difference in the trademark on the inside of the caps should be noted. The PCV routing is another. Kenny B. and I have some questions on that issue. I submitted something before off line but as Roy has expressed in other post's he has had other things going on that has kept him from working on the list. I believe he plans on additions again soon. The variations of the door tag,battery heat shield and the trunk light are things I have seen before . The trunk mat is something that doesn't make sense on such a late car . I have #0001 and while the original trunk mat was too far gone to use during the restoration it was the jute back and not rubber back variety. The jute back mat is consistent with any number of other 67 Shelby trunk mats across a wide range of VIN numbers and build dates that myself and others have seen over the years.
The air cleaner base and lid is another inconsistent item. The no name top was historically used only on the very very early GT500's until the Cobra version came out first in a sand cast and then later in a diecast or injection cast. It certainly raises questions that such a late built car would would have such a early prototype air cleaner . These inconsistencies are just a small part of the big picture which is of a very unmolested car. Thank you again for sharing . Bob

 

Alot of water went over the damn til 1975, Bob, and the early history of #1547 is a mystery. Unlike aftermarket or repo parts, the inconsistencies may be original to the car, unfortunately, the details of how they got there are lost to time. In an otherwise unmollested car, they must simply be acccepted as part of how the car survived.

 

Roy,now that I know you have some time I will check the list this weekend and offer some additions and get back to you. The flat gas caps were all FOMOCO in block letters in the rectangle then the same cap without the flat adapter was used- then sometime in mid production like a lot of various other items the logo changed to Autolite. Thank you for your effort. Bob

 

OK, I took a look at #1547 this afternoon so I could complete the items I didn't know off the top of my head on the form. Where the heck is the logo on the gas cap? I don't see anything when I pop the cap. Do you have to pull it to look at the back side?

I emailed the moderator to amend my original post with the rest of the info, but here it is for completeness:

3.2. PVC Connection
• To air cleaner
4.2. Fuel Line
• Routed along rocker panels
4.9. Door Panel Trim (Brushed Aluminum)
• curved forward edge
4.11. Front Seat Trim
• Attached w/ three screws
4.12. Battery Apron Reinforcement
• Narrow (2 ¼” x 7 ¾”)
4.14. Rear End Housing
• W/fill plug in back of housing

 

Hi to all on this subject:The latest posts on car #1547 are a good example of how we look at details,that most would not ever think of.The patina of this car speaks volumes on its own.And several of the points Bob has brought up could be explained easily enough..when you read the registry,many of the comments are from original warranty claims-many G.T. 500 cars had problems with carbs,and small fires are often mentioned.The Ford dealer would have replaced the parts with whatever was available in that time frame,such as pcv/air cleaner/and even things like a trunk mat are often different within months of the original production date of the vehicle.The first major service done on this car would also involve changes in parts,so we often must watch how things are judged,and in my opinion give the benefit of doubt to the car.If only they had flight recorders! and before I forget--VERY NICE Example-thanks for sharing!! Enjoy!

 

Thanks, Patty. Owners of unrestored cars have a tremendous obligation to the hobby. I have done my best to preserve the originality of #1547 as I believe it was and not as I would have liked for it to be.

 

How about shock tower caps with and without welded on washers? What do y'all know about them?

 

Hi to Hamilton ! just a quick answer to your question.We know that Ford used 2 different part numbers to identify the parts.The reinforced type were specified as part of the" Export "parts.(often specified for cars originally sold in Foreign countries.) The years of owning/driving these cars has shown the importance of the added strength.If you use stiffer shocks you need the stronger mounts to prevent metal fatigue,or flexing.They are often called KONI washers,and are easy to install.Most of Shelby cars have them for 65/66 production,but not all,they are also seen on 67's -with no concrete reason(s)most of us think it was due to parts availability.Please remember 67 was a record year,with over 472,000 mustangs produced-each car used 2 front shock brackets. Hope this answers your ?? P.D.

 

Just to add hopefully for a little more clarification-it is not a production change as much as a production interruption as PD indicated . 65 to 70 Shelby's were supposed to all get the reinforced upper shock brackets but from time to time there were a few anomaly's were the heavy duty upper shock brackets didn't make it on the cars like they were supposed to . 1967 Shelby production saw the largest number of cars that missed getting the correct brackets . The cars that got missed seemed to be mostly in the middle of production however observation by myself and others has verified cars that were early as well a late production that got missed but not in significant numbers like those in the middle of production. This is why the conclusion is a interruption of parts supplied from vendors instead of assemblyline error which is a more likely reason in the case of the other year cars.