New Ebay Shelby Cars

I used to own the '66 (from '99 to 2003).

In my opinion it is NOT a legit GT-350H. There is at least one other car in existance with the same serial numbers (both Ford & Shelby).
Z. Ray

 

When I purchased the car in '99 I believed it to be a legit GT-350. I bought it from the owner listed in the registry, the Ford VIN matched the SAAC records, etc. Two years later I got a call from the SAAC '65-'66 registrar. He informed me that another car had surfaced in VA with the same set of serial numbers. Subsequent investigation led me to believe that one the owners in the 1980's had produced one OR MORE fake GT-350 with these serial numbers. I sold my car in 2003 on ebay, listing it as a regular Mustang with the Shelby pieces. Yes, I took "a bath". But not as bad a some would experience with todays prices.

SAAC knows all of this, and probably more. You have to ask SAAC the "right" questions when investigating a purchase. For example, one question I now know to ask would be, "is there any information that SAAC has on any of the past owners which connects them to auto larceny or fraud?"

 

Could make for a interesting day at a show. Two cars with the same #s each thinking thiers is the one. I hope that never happens!!

 

Kind of like a car wreck; it's more interesting to the observer than the participant

Z. Ray

 

I think I recall you selling that car on ebay. I keep a pretty close watch. I also recall you letting the buyer beware. But I think that there has to be a way to tell the real from the fake. I am not sure of exactly how but it seems there has to be a way

 

Wow - the ultimate fraud. An owner copying his own car with the correct Ford and Shelby VIN!

To date comparing these two secret numbers is the only reliable way to ensure you have a correct car. Given their prices, it would be easy to replicate the car exactly including the proper VIN stamps and markings.

This should increase the value for owners who can accurately trace the entire history of the car and previous owners. The fewer owners the better!

 

Think of how much money someone could make if they got their hands on this SAAC or MARTI crossreference list. Especially for 67 shelbys. Everything is in the Vin. Color, engine, trans, smog wouldn't be hard to fake.

 

What about engine blocks? The one with the correct 6R09Kxxxxxx stamping would help prove authenticity. However, I guess that too could be faked. When I bought my '66 I was fortunate that the car was completely disassembled and on a rotisserie. That made it extremely easy to verify Ford serial numbers AND the panels they were stamped on. I think it would be extremely hard to fake and hide the evidence of new panels or "patches" if you can closely inspect all three areas where the Ford VINs are stamped.

 

So two guys both think they have the original, fully restored. Witch one do you think would be willing to strip thiers to bare metal to prove it?

 

What a mess! Buyer beware certainly applies to this example. You really need to be thorough as well as educated when buying one nowadays considering that the prices are going up so much! I'm sure we have not seen the last of this type of situation.

 

Hi,

So is the SFM6S180 the "fake"? If so, man it is a good one. Looks like they must have pulled the auction offline, as it had 0 bids.

Steve GT350

 

That car 6S180 looks good. they probably stopped the auction and sold it offline to save eBay fees. the Hertz car is still under investigation. the outcome will be made public. with all Shelby and Valuable Vintage cars, thorough research should be done. look before you leap!