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Discussion in 'Shelby Mustang List' started by Chris Tann, May 9, 2006.

  1. Chris Tann

    Chris Tann Guest

    Hi all,

    My special-order Yellow KR is in at the shop for bady and paint. They are still at the disassembly stage at the moment. They are working on the hood, and have run into some problems. I knew that the louvers were cracked, they said on stripping it they basically fell apart. Now I definately want to keep the original hood - they said that the louvers are repairable, but that the repair work would show inside. They recommended painting the entire underside black to match the scoop, rather than the original yellow, as this would hide the repair work much better.

    Now, my plans for this car do not really include showing it - I want to keep it as original as possible, but I also want it to look great to the lay-person. So what do you think? Original colour but with repair work more visible? Black to hide the repair work? Another option I haven't considered?

    Regards,
    Chris.


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  2. Randall Paul

    Randall Paul Guest

    Re: Shelby interior

    Hi guys

    If I wanted to give my interior a touch up with out it looking stupid. What products do you use. It is almost perfect outide of a few seat bellt marks on the consil and a few nicks in the back from the usual " I'll throw the bag in the back" . I heard that there was a revolutionary re-pigment process from a European company that some of the guys are using. I just want to freshen it up with out changing it or screwing up. Thanks

    Randall

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Chris Tann
    To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:24 AM
    Subject: KR hood louver repair


    Hi all,

    My special-order Yellow KR is in at the shop for bady and paint. They are still at the disassembly stage at the moment. They are working on the hood, and have run into some problems. I knew that the louvers were cracked, they said on stripping it they basically fell apart. Now I definately want to keep the original hood - they said that the louvers are repairable, but that the repair work would show inside. They recommended painting the entire underside black to match the scoop, rather than the original yellow, as this would hide the repair work much better.

    Now, my plans for this car do not really include showing it - I want to keep it as original as possible, but I also want it to look great to the lay-person. So what do you think? Original colour but with repair work more visible? Black to hide the repair work? Another option I haven't considered?

    Regards,
    Chris.



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  3. Chris, as trick as that car is ,if it were my car I would find another
    hood. A all blacked out hood would stand out like a sore thumb to any
    knowledgeable enthusest and it is not original as you remaked you
    wanted to be. You can put the KR air chamber on a regular 68 Shelby Hood
    and if they are doing a professional job they would take the chamber off
    any way . I know many talented fiberglass people that could make a job
    like repairing louvers look very close to being invisible. I am sure
    others do too but it takes talent first and time ( which means money).
    That is why another hood might make more sense from a dollar stand
    point. Hope this helps Bob G.
    On Tuesday, May 9, 2006, at 03:24 PM, Chris Tann wrote:

    > Hi all,
    >  
    > My special-order Yellow KR is in at the shop for bady and paint. They
    > are still at the disassembly stage at the moment. They are working on
    > the hood, and have run into some problems. I knew that the louvers were
    > cracked, they said on stripping it they basically fell apart. Now I
    > definately want to keep the original hood - they said that the louvers
    > are repairable, but that the repair work would show inside. They
    > recommended painting the entire underside black to match the scoop,
    > rather than the original yellow, as this would hide the repair work
    > much better.
    >  
    > Now, my plans for this car do not really include showing it - I want to
    > keep it as original as possible, but I also want it to look great to
    > the lay-person. So what do you think? Original colour but with repair
    > work more visible? Black to hide the repair work? Another option I
    > haven't considered?
    >  
    > Regards,
    >               Chris.
    >
    >
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  4. I was able to pick up a broken repo hood a while back when I was at a
    mustang parts vendor one time. I could not take the hood but only needed the
    louvers so we broke them from the rest of the hood. I think I got them for about
    $50. we grafted them to the otherwise good stock hood.
    see what you can find

    bob
     
  5. Tom Kubler

    Tom Kubler Guest

    A few years ago one of the vendors acquired a fair assortment of misc components that went on to become part of a larger assembly and vents were part of that assortment. They sold some on eBay and elsewhere. I don't remember who it was... Branda or Perogie? Perkins?

    As pointed out earlier, they could (should) be repaired with little notice, but it would take several hours if not a couple of days to do it... It sounds like your body folks don't feel up to the task.

    Tom Kubler

    RSANTER (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
    I was able to pick up a broken repo hood a while back when I was at a mustang parts vendor one time. I could not take the hood but only needed the louvers so we broke them from the rest of the hood. I think I got them for about $50. we grafted them to the otherwise good stock hood.
    see what you can find

    bob
     
  6. In a message dated 5/9/2006 4:09:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com writes:

    > Chris, as trick as that car is ,if it were my car I would find another
    > hood.


    Lo and behold, another hood...on ebay, showed up late last night---

    eBay Motors: ORIGINAL 1968 SHELBY GT500KR FIBERGLAS HOOD (item 8065173887
    end time May-19-06 23:55:11 PDT)

    Dave
     
  7. I may be a little out of touch, but $2995.00 starting bid? Not sure what it would cost to rebuild the original, but I would sure get some quotes.
    My .02 worth.
    Ron
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
    To: bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com ; chris (AT) christann (DOT) com
    Cc: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:50 AM
    Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair


    In a message dated 5/9/2006 4:09:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com writes:


    Chris, as trick as that car is ,if it were my car I would find another
    hood.


    Lo and behold, another hood...on ebay, showed up late last night---

    eBay Motors: ORIGINAL 1968 SHELBY GT500KR FIBERGLAS HOOD (item 8065173887 end time May-19-06 23:55:11 PDT)

    Dave
     
  8. Chris Tann

    Chris Tann Guest

    Hi all,

    Thanks for the responses. I had a long chat with the "glass man" today. As several people had mentioned, the "look" of the repairs really come down to time (i.e. money). His #1 priority is how it looks from the outside, and running a close second is - robustness. He doesn't want (and neither do I!) to make the repair, only to have it crack and break again. His recomendation was to fiberglass the inside of each louver, to make them strong and more resistant to cracking again - but, that doesn't look as clean underneath, hence the suggestion to paint under the hood black. They did this on another KR that they are just finishing up, but that one was a dark green, so the black under-hood didn't look bad at all...

    Anyway, after our conversation today, he is going to go ahead and make the repairs as clean as possible underneath, while not compromising the strength of the repair itself - and we are going to go for body-colour under the hood. The good news is he is also very pleased with the overall state of the 'glass - which hopefully will translate to less prep time, and so less $$$s!

    Regards,
    Chris.


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  9. Chris:
    Great news. I think you made the correct choice.
    Ron
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Chris Tann
    To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:02 PM
    Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair


    Hi all,

    Thanks for the responses. I had a long chat with the "glass man" today. As several people had mentioned, the "look" of the repairs really come down to time (i.e. money). His #1 priority is how it looks from the outside, and running a close second is - robustness. He doesn't want (and neither do I!) to make the repair, only to have it crack and break again. His recomendation was to fiberglass the inside of each louver, to make them strong and more resistant to cracking again - but, that doesn't look as clean underneath, hence the suggestion to paint under the hood black. They did this on another KR that they are just finishing up, but that one was a dark green, so the black under-hood didn't look bad at all...

    Anyway, after our conversation today, he is going to go ahead and make the repairs as clean as possible underneath, while not compromising the strength of the repair itself - and we are going to go for body-colour under the hood. The good news is he is also very pleased with the overall state of the 'glass - which hopefully will translate to less prep time, and so less $$$s!

    Regards,
    Chris.



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    phone (408) 205 6793 http://www.christann.com

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  10. If you look at his auctions he listed a bunch of high dollar parts at
    ionosphere prices , this is what happens on 10 cent listing day


    >From: "Ronald. Robertson" <ronald.robertson (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca>
    >To: <DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com>,<bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com>,<chris (AT) christann (DOT) com>
    >CC: <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair
    >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 12:19:22 -0400
    >
    >I may be a little out of touch, but $2995.00 starting bid? Not sure what it
    >would cost to rebuild the original, but I would sure get some quotes.
    >My .02 worth.
    >Ron
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
    > To: bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com ; chris (AT) christann (DOT) com
    > Cc: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:50 AM
    > Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 5/9/2006 4:09:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    >bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com writes:
    >
    >
    > Chris, as trick as that car is ,if it were my car I would find another
    > hood.
    >
    >
    > Lo and behold, another hood...on ebay, showed up late last night---
    >
    > eBay Motors: ORIGINAL 1968 SHELBY GT500KR FIBERGLAS HOOD (item
    >8065173887 end time May-19-06 23:55:11 PDT)
    >
    > Dave


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  11. Most of us know that is Perogie selling those parts, and his prices are
    always in the stratosphere.......

    Kenny
     
  12. Chris Tann

    Chris Tann Guest

    Just a FYI - I asked him a bunch of questions about the hood - and got no response.

    Chris.

    James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:
    If you look at his auctions he listed a bunch of high dollar parts at
    ionosphere prices , this is what happens on 10 cent listing day


    >From: "Ronald. Robertson"
    >To: ,,
    >CC:
    >Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair
    >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 12:19:22 -0400
    >
    >I may be a little out of touch, but $2995.00 starting bid? Not sure what it
    >would cost to rebuild the original, but I would sure get some quotes.
    >My .02 worth.
    >Ron
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
    > To: bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com ; chris (AT) christann (DOT) com
    > Cc: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:50 AM
    > Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 5/9/2006 4:09:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    >bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com writes:
    >
    >
    > Chris, as trick as that car is ,if it were my car I would find another
    > hood.
    >
    >
    > Lo and behold, another hood...on ebay, showed up late last night---
    >
    > eBay Motors: ORIGINAL 1968 SHELBY GT500KR FIBERGLAS HOOD (item
    >8065173887 end time May-19-06 23:55:11 PDT)
    >
    > Dave


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  13. I still have a few NOS louvers from AO Smith, only have 1 side, not sure
    which one


    >From: Chris Tann <chris (AT) christann (DOT) com>
    >Reply-To: chris (AT) christann (DOT) com
    >To: James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>, ronald.robertson (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca,
    >DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com, bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com, chris (AT) christann (DOT) com
    >CC: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    >Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair
    >Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
    >
    >Just a FYI - I asked him a bunch of questions about the hood - and got no
    >response.
    >
    > Chris.
    >
    >James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:
    > If you look at his auctions he listed a bunch of high dollar parts at
    >ionosphere prices , this is what happens on 10 cent listing day
    >
    >
    > >From: "Ronald. Robertson"
    > >To: ,,
    > >CC:
    > >Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair
    > >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 12:19:22 -0400
    > >
    > >I may be a little out of touch, but $2995.00 starting bid? Not sure what

    >it
    > >would cost to rebuild the original, but I would sure get some quotes.
    > >My .02 worth.
    > >Ron
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
    > > To: bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com ; chris (AT) christann (DOT) com
    > > Cc: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:50 AM
    > > Subject: Re: KR hood louver repair
    > >
    > >
    > > In a message dated 5/9/2006 4:09:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    > >bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com writes:
    > >
    > >
    > > Chris, as trick as that car is ,if it were my car I would find another
    > > hood.
    > >
    > >
    > > Lo and behold, another hood...on ebay, showed up late last night---
    > >
    > > eBay Motors: ORIGINAL 1968 SHELBY GT500KR FIBERGLAS HOOD (item
    > >8065173887 end time May-19-06 23:55:11 PDT)
    > >
    > > Dave

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