The vest place is to look in one of the many "hidden" areas on your car. The color of the undercarriage depended on the year and plant ... even day your was assembled. If every thing is removed the next best source would be another Mustang built at the same on or about the same time as your car. This could include cars within a 4,000 sequential number range from your car but there is no quick way of telling if a car was or was not. Look in places where oil and grease will have protected the finish from the elements. A few additional items to mention 1. Remember that the correct (and best choice) of product for this job is epoxy primer. Originally it sealed out the elements (primer does not) and prevented rusting 2. Over this we would see semi-gloss black from the firewall and front wheel well painting on the front edge of the floor pans. (how much depends again on the factory the car was built at). Can extend along the front frame rails a bit but the rest of the rail may be coated due to the pinch weld black-out mentioned below 3. Over that we would expect to see over spray from the exterior color (on the floor pans forward of the rear end rise. Heavier at the outer edge but none normally on the first 3-5 inches inward of the pinch weld 4. Over spray (black again) from the pinch weld black out process. This was done prior to installing the front fenders and rear valance ( the valance was installed at some factories partially but not tightened against the body) This should coat the pinch weld and the rocker and quarter panels approx 1/2" from where the two meet. The over spray normally did not travel as far as the exterior color nor was it as heavy Since they were assembled as Mach I's a very small amount (again depending on the worker) sound deadener was applied to a couple of locations on the car. Hope this helps Jeff S On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:56:23 EST, Shlbyman@aol.com wrote: > I am wondering how I might get some info on undercarriage detailing on 69 shelby mustang.I am not necessarily looking for concours just some nice correct type clean-up, painting and primer. What books would be helpful, etc? maybe someone has some pics that would help greatly? I recently had it repainted and I'm not looking to disassemble.. thanks in advance. Roger 70 GT500
Hey Jeff - Excellent written resource for the 1969 cars - Thank you - I printed it out and put it in my resource book. I have yet to see a 1969 or 1970 Shelby (Shelby ONLY) that did not have red oxide in the transmission tunnel. It appears that they all got the red stuff at least in the transmission tunnel. SGB ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Speegle" <speegle@pipeline.com> To: <Shlbyman@aol.com>; <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:54 AM Subject: Re: Undercarriage detailing help? > The vest place is to look in one of the many "hidden" areas > on your car. The color of the undercarriage depended on the > year and plant ... even day your was assembled. > > If every thing is removed the next best source would be > another Mustang built at the same on or about the same time > as your car. This could include cars within a 4,000 > sequential number range from your car but there is no quick > way of telling if a car was or was not. > > Look in places where oil and grease will have protected the > finish from the elements. A few additional items to > mention > > 1. Remember that the correct (and best choice) of product > for this job is epoxy primer. Originally it sealed out the > elements (primer does not) and prevented rusting > > 2. Over this we would see semi-gloss black from the firewall > and front wheel well painting on the front edge of the floor > pans. (how much depends again on the factory the car was > built at). Can extend along the front frame rails a bit but > the rest of the rail may be coated due to the pinch weld > black-out mentioned below > > 3. Over that we would expect to see over spray from the > exterior color (on the floor pans forward of the rear end > rise. Heavier at the outer edge but none normally on the > first 3-5 inches inward of the pinch weld > > 4. Over spray (black again) from the pinch weld black out > process. This was done prior to installing the front fenders > and rear valance ( the valance was installed at some > factories partially but not tightened against the body) This > should coat the pinch weld and the rocker and quarter panels > approx 1/2" from where the two meet. The over spray normally > did not travel as far as the exterior color nor was it as > heavy > > Since they were assembled as Mach I's a very small amount > (again depending on the worker) sound deadener was applied > to a couple of locations on the car. > > > Hope this helps > > Jeff S > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:56:23 EST, Shlbyman@aol.com wrote: >> I am wondering how I might get some info on undercarriage > detailing on 69 shelby mustang.I am not necessarily looking > for concours just some nice correct type clean-up, painting > and primer. What books would be helpful, etc? maybe someone > has some pics that would help greatly? I recently had it > repainted and I'm not looking to disassemble.. thanks in > advance. Roger 70 GT500 > > >
New Subject Tracking a car I had an e mail from a guy who wants to find his dad's old shelby - He knows the VIN number but has no clue how to find the car. Neither do I. Here is a "outpost" that I e mailed him back. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Thanks SGB ------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen G. Becker" <sbeckerone@charter.net> To: "Cheryl Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Becker Performance Email Us Form >I would have no idea how to track the car - after 9-11 and Y2K most states >either deleted old car/title info (prior to Y2K) or put it under "need to >know only" info and no access is available to it by the general public. I >know of no 50 state search DMV search anymore - > > I would hire a national private detective firm and see if they have any > luck - you will probably spend 2k to 5k to get the info and then you will > only then have that - info - it maybe old or outdated or the current owner > may not want to sell the car > > Good luck > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl > To: "Stephen G. Becker" <sbeckerone@charter.net> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:26 AM > Subject: Re: Becker Performance Email Us Form > > >> Sometime in the mid to late '80's. I do not know exactly because he had >> it stored in Scottsdale,Az. I believe he sold it there too. I don't think >> it went thru Barrett-Jackson but it could have. The car probably had >> 14,000 to 25,000 original miles. I did hear from a gentleman that the car >> ended up in Florida, but do not know if that is the case. If you have any >> more ?'s please e-mail or call Thanks >> again... >> On Feb 1, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Stephen G. Becker wrote: >> >>> when did you father sell this car (what year?)
Re: New Subject 1969 GT 500 - Get me the info and I will pass onto the guy I passed on two CSX cars in the last 30 days - one for 310k and one for 375k - both driver cars and nothing special - BJ had a horrible example of one that was black, had a NOM, etc. that brought almost 400k with commissions..................... Yikes!! SGB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Cundiff" <DRCundiff1@netscape.net> To: <sbeckerone@charter.net> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: Re: New Subject > Stephen. What year and model is the car? > > The private inv idea is the best one. I once had a friend that did private > investigative work. The stuff he could come up with was truly amazing. It > does cost a pretty penny though. > > Have you bought or sold any metal csx cars recently? What are they going > for? > > Thanks. > > Dan C > > sbeckerone@charter.net wrote: > >> Tracking a car >> >> I had an e mail from a guy who wants to find his dad's old shelby - He >> knows the VIN number but has no clue how to find the car. Neither do I. >> Here is a "outpost" that I e mailed him back. If anyone has any ideas >> please let me know. >> >> Thanks >> >> SGB >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen G. Becker" >> <sbeckerone@charter.net> >> To: "Cheryl >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:48 AM >> Subject: Re: Becker Performance Email Us Form >> >> >>> I would have no idea how to track the car - after 9-11 and Y2K most >>> states >>> either deleted old car/title info (prior to Y2K) or put it under "need >>> to >>> know only" info and no access is available to it by the general public. >>> I >>> know of no 50 state search DMV search anymore - >>> >>> I would hire a national private detective firm and see if they have any >>> luck - you will probably spend 2k to 5k to get the info and then you >>> will >>> only then have that - info - it maybe old or outdated or the current >>> owner >>> may not want to sell the car >>> >>> Good luck >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl >>> To: "Stephen G. Becker" <sbeckerone@charter.net> >>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:26 AM >>> Subject: Re: Becker Performance Email Us Form >>> >>> >>>> Sometime in the mid to late '80's. I do not know exactly because he had >>>> it stored in Scottsdale,Az. I believe he sold it there too. I don't >>>> think >>>> it went thru Barrett-Jackson but it could have. The car probably had >>>> 14,000 to 25,000 original miles. I did hear from a gentleman that the >>>> car >>>> ended up in Florida, but do not know if that is the case. If you have >>>> any >>>> more ?'s please e-mail or call Thanks >>>> again... >>> >> >>>> On Feb 1, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Stephen G. Becker wrote: >>>> >>>>> when did you father sell this car (what year?) >>>> >>
