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TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List ------------------------------------ Jody, All excellent advice by Stan. I used to raise my car in the front by the engine cross-brace too but got a little concerned about it when I saw how much it flexed once, guess I shouldn't have looked. Certainly a lot of people do it this way with no problems but I know of one guy who bent the brace doing it this way. Haven't tried this yet myself but another suggestion from a guy on another forum is to use a 4x6 cut to fit so it spans the very front frame rails right behind the front valance lower edge. Dave SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com wrote: > Jody- > Please excuse me for saying the obvious here. Safety is > paramount..for you and the car. Be sure to use good equipment...No > cheap, stamped metal jackstands or small, flimsy jacks. You can't go > wrong with stuff that Sears sells, SNAP-On, etc. A big saddle on the > jack helps, too. For Mustang work, I prefer a minimum of a 2-Ton rated > jack. I also use the polyurethane jackstand and jack saddle pads to > avoid marring and denting frame rails but you can improvise in a pinch > with cardboard, old towel material, etc. > I prefer jacking the car up from the front or rear, using the > bottom of the rear end housing and, in front, using the engine > cross-brace. Just be careful to clear your aluminum Cobra oil pan if > you have one. Position your jackstand saddles at the front frame rails > and on each axle tube. The car is easier to handle in this manner, > rather than jacking from side to side. If you want to raise the car > higher, do it incrementally rather than all at once. It's not a good > idea to go so high as to max out your jackstands. > BTW, if you're going to take off the wheels & tires, just loosen > your lug nuts a little b4 raising the car. Otherwise, you'll need > someone to step on the brake pedal. > Regards, Stan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jody Yesville <mailto:jyesville (AT) comcast (DOT) net> > To: shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com > <mailto:shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:30 AM > Subject: [Shelbymustang] Jacking up and jack stands? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hello guys and girls, > > It's me Jody, with the '67 350. I am going to jack my car up and > set it on jack stands. I'm not sure where to put the jack > (hydraulic) in the front and the rear, and where to place the jack > stands? I can only lift one side at a time, so I am concerned > that if I get the back up on stands and go to lift the front, it > may come crashing to the ground. Don't want to hurt my baby. > > Thanks to all of you, for such a great community!!!!! > > Jody > > > > _______________________________________________ ShelbyMustang mailing list Send email to ShelbyMustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com Membership Administration http://thecarsource.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbymustang_thecarsource.com Group Web Page http://www.thecarsource.com/shelbymustang
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TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List ------------------------------------ All, Here's a lesson learned the hard way: I typically jack my GT350 clone from the rear under the differential, and at the front, from the sides, under the chassis rails. I've heard too many horror stories of jacking accidents using the tubular bolt-in bar that runs under the bottom of the oil pan. So, I jacked the rear of the car up, about as high as I could get it, installed axle stands under the rear axle, then removed the rear wheels. Then went to the front, and against my better judgement, decided to jack under the tubular bar. The front of the car started up smoothly, and as I was paranoid about the car potentially falling off the jack, I stared intently at the saddle of the jack as the front end went up. Suddenly, something was amiss--the car was slowly moving SIDEWAYS???? I looked past the jack, to the rear of the car, and was horrified to see the rear axle standing at least an inch off of the jackstands. Huh? One of the rear tires I had removed and set to the side, had slowly, on its own, rolled directly to the rear of the car. When the front end of the car started coming up, the back end of the car started coming down (pivoting at the rear axle/jackstand interface), until the lower valance came to rest on the tire. The car was at this point suspended in the air by the jack in the front, and tire tire under the sheetmetal in the back. And then the sheetmetal (and the license plate) collapsed, cracking the paint, and letting the car shift to the side as the tire started rolling!!!! ACK!!!! Fortunately I was able to lower the front of the car again before any further disaster took place. I bent the mangled panel and plate somewhat back into shape by hand, and although the paint was comprehensively cracked, thankfully it didn't flake off, and in fact you've seen many photos of the car duringthis spring I had the car stripped to bare metal and painted. The body shop doing the work was unfamiliar with Mustangs (and especially with the wide availability of cheap parts), and thus devoted many expensive hours of labor to straighten the tweaked panel and make it totally perfect. They were rather disgusted when they subsequently learned a new replacement could have been purchased for about fifty bucks... Mike _______________________________________________ ShelbyMustang mailing list Send email to ShelbyMustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com Membership Administration http://thecarsource.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbymustang_thecarsource.com Group Web Page http://www.thecarsource.com/shelbymustang
TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List ------------------------------------ In a message dated 8/9/06 21:41:03, MikeLDrew (AT) aol (DOT) com writes: << and in fact you've seen many photos of the car duringthis spring I had the car stripped >> >>>AOL mangled my post. What I said was, "...and in fact you've seen many photos of the car during my extensive travels in Europe and probably never noticed. As an aside, this spring..." Mike _______________________________________________ ShelbyMustang mailing list Send email to ShelbyMustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com Membership Administration http://thecarsource.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbymustang_thecarsource.com Group Web Page http://www.thecarsource.com/shelbymustang
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TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List ------------------------------------ I will testify Dan is a biggen. After that story I will have to refer to him as Man Mountain Dan. I also have a jack story. When still a teen ,I was working on my front brakes with the tire off of the left front and car supported by the factory scissor jack at the factory pinch weld lift point. I ask my girlfriend and future wife to keep me company and told her to get in the car and turn the car radio on in the car . She stepped into the car and to my horror it was enough movement that it caused the jack to roll over . I was on one knee at the time when the wheel opening of the fender came down on my leg just above my knee. I was lucky in that as car came down on my leg it rolled forward at the same time which knocked my leg sideways and over so it only caught the first impact . That saved my leg from snapping. I was left with a nasty bruise and later when it healed ,a slight depression in the muscle to forever remind me about my bonehead move and the dangers of jack stands. BG. On Thursday, August 10, 2006, at 09:01 AM, Dan Drury wrote: > TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List > ------------------------------------ > ok boys and girls..... Dennis had some great points here, but let me > tell you why I DO NOT place the jack stands under the rear axles (well > most of the time). > > A long time ago in a past millennium, a certain someone (me) raised my > old 68 Mustang fastback (not my KR) up just like Dennis indicated > below. While underneath working on some rear suspension parts, I > inadvertently removed a bolt or two or 4 from the trac-bars and the > whole darned thing collapsed on top of me with the gas tank resting on > my head. I knew if I yelled for help my mother (the only one at home) > would have had a heart attack right there in the garage. ] > > Now I'm a pretty big guy (even bigger and rounder now and if you don't > believe me ask Bob Gaines he knows me!) and I was just out of high > school and was probably in the best shape in my life after a few years > of throwing the shot-put. Some how, some way (I now realize that it was > Divine Intervention) I was able to get my arm into a position to raise > the vehicle up just a little and some how slide out from under it. > Sweating like a greased pig on the smooth garage floor might have > helped out as well. > > soooo > > The moral of the story is....... > > PLACE THE JACK STANDS UNDER / ON THE FRAME RAILS, NOT THE REAR AXLES TO > BE 100% SAFE unless your frame rails are rusted through!!!!!! > > Dan > > > From: shelbymustang-bounces (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com > [mailto:shelbymustang-bounces (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com] On Behalf Of > dennis@URImn > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:23 PM > To: shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com > Subject: Re: [Shelbymustang] Jacking up and jack stands? > > > Great advice and instructions from Dave and Stan. You cannot be too > careful. Use some common sense when jacking up a multi ton vehicle for > your own protection and the cars. I always start at the rear end and > use a hydraulic floor jack on the center of the rear end then put heavy > duty jack stands under the axles on both sides. The manual with your > car says to use the ridge under the quarter panels/door to jack it up. > Always block the wheels so that it will not roll backwards. I cut some > chunks of wood into solid triangles and a blocking piece to prevent it > from rolling. And do this on a level cement or such floor. Ramps are > great for the front end but take some practice, driving skill and a > second person to use effectively. I have a set and don't use them. > > Now that I have tossed in my 2 cents let me tell you what can happen. A > friend of mine who will remain nameless wanted to take the C-6 out of > his 428 70 Mach 1. He didn't have appropriate equipment so he, his > brother and Dad used what they had on hand, happened to be some wooden > boxes. They jacked it up then set it on the boxes. All three crawled > underneath it to handle that heavy C-6. The boxes gave way and the car > came down on top of them. The good news is my friend was able to get > out and jack it up off his brother and Dad. No one got seriously hurt > but it pinned the other two under the car when it came down. He told me > what happened at a club meeting. He acquired some stands and a floor > jack after that almost catastrophe. > > Be careful and aware. Use common sense. No short cuts! > Dennis > > > > At 10:30 AM 8/9/2006, you wrote: > > TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List > ------------------------------------ > Hello guys and girls, > > It's me Jody, with the '67 350. I am going to jack my car up and set > it on jack stands. I'm not sure where to put the jack (hydraulic) in > the front and the rear, and where to place the jack stands? I can only > lift one side at a time, so I am concerned that if I get the back up on > stands and go to lift the front, it may come crashing to the ground. > Don't want to hurt my baby. > > Thanks to all of you, for such a great community!!!!! > > Jody > > _______________________________________________ > ShelbyMustang mailing list > Send email to ShelbyMustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com > Membership Administration > http://thecarsource.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbymustang_thecarsource.com > Group Web Page http://www.thecarsource.com/shelbymustang > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/414 - Release Date: 8/9/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > ShelbyMustang mailing list > Send email to ShelbyMustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com > Membership Administration > http://thecarsource.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbymustang_thecarsource.com > Group Web Page http://www.thecarsource.com/shelbymustang _______________________________________________ ShelbyMustang mailing list Send email to ShelbyMustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com Membership Administration http://thecarsource.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbymustang_thecarsource.com Group Web Page http://www.thecarsource.com/shelbymustang
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