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I feel the same as you. I would love to have one of these cars and have even considered trading my ERA cobra for one but I refuse to pay an over-sticker price for one. Hopefully after the initial rush on them the prices will become more realistic.

Doug

 

It's amazing how times have changed. I guess these dealers don't think that this is going to hurt sales down the road. Let's say you will also want a Ford 500 in a year or so. I doubt you will go to any of these greed merchants. Now you just might go looking at the Toyota dealer for a new car.
I guess Ford dealers did'nt figure this out with the Ford GT.

Imagine where the Mustang would be today if, back in 1964, the dealers started tacking on additional profit to the then new 65 Mustang. Back then even the stripper model Musatngs where highly sought after.

 

According to my friends at fords( most are white collar worrying about the cuts) they plan on increasing the shelby production because of the sales. They joke that all they can sell are trucks and mustangs-especially shelbys and the word is more is better so stay tuned and be patient and soon they will be like the T-birds were a couple of years ago-you will be able to get one at a sane price because there will be more available. Gary

 

From what I have read many dealers in 64 and 65 marked up Mustangs by $500 to $1000. Nearly the same % as these dealers. That being said I did not get a new Shelby because my local dealer wanted $15,000 over sticker. I figure Ford is going to make them a few years so I just will wait til the maddness ends and get one next year. Remember when the 03 "Terminator" Cobras came out and dealers were asking $10,000 over sticker for them, well one year later you could actually get them on A-plan.

As far as getting a Toyota instead of a 500, I just don't follow that logic. Maybe get the 500 from another dealer but get the 500 if it is what you want.

 

J. Bailey, you sound very bitter. We are all digusted by the ADM's, but that's just the way it is. If someone has the money to buy the car, does it make them stupid? Maybe, maybe not. I think it might make them LOADED. If you look around at whats available for the $40,000-$60,000 range, I don't think there are many, if any comparisons to the GT-500. So some have made the decision for ADM's on this rationale. I agree with you that the ADM's are insane and I too will hold a personal grudge against dealers charging them. They are greedy and short sighted and will likely pay for thier greed in ruduced future sales.

 

With 2 sons in college I am not in the market for another car but at 60,000 plus for a Shelby now I would step up and buy a Z06 instead on my GM plan for a few dollars more. Speaking of mark ups, a longtime fellow GM worker wanted a Cobra convert in '03. I sent him to see a good friend of mine who sells Fords at an SVT dealership. They wanted him to give a deposit to put him on a waiting list without a guarantee he would get a car. Well he told the dealership to go #^%$& themselves and ended up buying a GT convert somewhere else and swore he would NEVER EVER step foot in that dealership again. I am fortunate to be able to buy GM on my plan at work OR get the Ford a-plan thru my mo-in-law. I have had the luxury of seeing a few Shelbys before the release because my neighbor must be a big shot at the Flatrock plant because he has had some home. I went down and looked at a triple black GT500 convert he had last May sitting the whole weekend outside at the end of his driveway. I found these cars to be too bland for my liking but thats me. I was a guy who back in the '70s was putting magnums, louvers, shakers and spoilers on Mach1s when usually you would only find them on bosses (shakers on r-codes). I like to think I started a trend back then that continues to this day Gary

 

Buddy of mine paid list for his. So did everyone else that but a deposit down before the cars came in.

"These cars will not be "real" Shelby's ever!!!

When Shelby had his hand in it and he calls it a Shelby, then explain why it isn't a Shelby.

 

I agree with DJR that these are REAL Shelbys and I'm glad that they finally started making them again and thank god they have some HP-500- behind them. Since people started hoarding 1978 pace car vettes have any "collectable" american car ever gone up immediately in value? Look at GNX(grand Nationals), ZR1 vettes, Vipers, Prowlers, T-birds, they all sold over sticker initially but when supply met demand they dropped so if these over sticker buyers are buying Shelbys to make a profit then good luck and I hope they are young enough to see their investment grow. I haven't heard of too many dealers that were taking deposits for sticker price and it wasn't the case at the dealership my friend sells at. Dealers were also auctioning off these cars on ebay BEFORE they were even built! I'll wait until the $$$ drops or buy a low mileage used one in a couple of years. Hey I'm not the original owner of my 1970 Shelby and that doesn't bother me in the least. Like I said before my sources at Fords say they will increase production on the Shelbys. Let see. Or maybe I'll wait and see what will be offered on the Camaro when it comes out(hey I work at GM)-maybe a Z-28 or Yenko is in the offering? Gary

 

That Camoro concept is butt ugly

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and according to feedback on the concept YOU are in the minority on the looks opinion of the Camaro. Gary

 

I think the Camaro front end was stolen right off an 86 Monte Carlo SS! GM guys are just happy the General is bringing back it's Pony! on the new Shelby: it is a REAL SHELBY. period end of that debate as there is NO debate. I had a deposit on one for 6 months @ $7500.00 over msrp. it killed me but I agreed to it. last week I found someone else who would like to continue the wait as my desire faded. I will pick one up used or a Trade in when they start rolling in to dealerships next year. as for the people that paid over sticker, they did what they could afford to do. Good for them for making a decision that pleased their inner child and for having the means to do it!

 

I' m with you on that, and even my friends that are GM fans think it is polarizing. You either hate it or are just grateful to have a pony car again.

 

Dalton David: An '86 Monte Carlo????????????????????????? Hardly, more like a '69 Camaro. Have you seen the pics? I have seen the car up close and the interior-if they build it-blows away the interior of the '07 Mustang. But maybe to some it will be like our saying at GM about the Aztek; "what the best view of a Pontiac Aztek? Behind the wheel of course". Anyways you are right that some are just happy they are building it. My inner child has been pleased with my Shelby(s) since 1984 so I have been lucky so I do not have the urge to get another car all I have to do is look at my car in the garage like most on this site.

 

Did you see the interior in the 05 Mustang concept. The interior in that was awesome. The whole car was much better looking than the production model. I bet the Camaro goes the same way. We will have to wait and see what compromises have to be made for it to be safe and affordable.

 

The contract for the doors for the Camaro went to a company in Whitby Ont.
One of the guys that works there saw the part # for a 4 door. No lie. Whether this happen on the Camaro or GM is thinking Chevelle again all you have to do is look at the success the 4 door Charger/Daytona is for Chrysler. Time will tell.

 

DJR that is interesting. Are you referring to the building of the dies for the doors? Most of our outer sheet metal is done inhouse for quality control reasons and GM has been proceeding from the beginning of the year to downsize our die build by sending all inner sheetmetal fabrication to China(even Toyota is closing shop in Japan and using China). At least that is what they told us in a big meeting last Dec. about the future of our metal fabricating business and at our facility. Most of the eliminated jobs were done by the buyouts and retirement incentives. We have 6 metal fab plants doing die build. I find it interesting that GM would use a die shop in Canada for outsourcing when they can do the outsourced in China for 10s of thousands less.The shop must be of HIGH quality rating for GM to use it and might have to do with the Canadien government(some kind of deal??) with the Camaro scheduled to be built there. It would make sense to use Canadien suppiers for the plant. The head of our Met Fab division had reservations about the quality control of outer sheetmetal and that is why they said they would keep outer sheetmetal in house and not have China do it. Unlike 40 years ago, when quality was not the greatest, when we build our dies and do tryout, the finished part fits the fixture and has no issues in a light room. You get the part perfect because when it is set up to run in a production facility the part can change due to many variables like steel specs, presses etc. and metal finishing is very expensive( all inperfect parts are metal finished inhouse or out before being delivered to the customer). I'll have to check with my sources about a 4 door model. Gary

 

Call me crazy, but I ordered one today for $10,000 over MSRP and was glad to get it. It will be the only GT500 convert in my little town here in Alabama
I contacted the dealers in B'ham (3 of them) and they didn't even respond to my inquiry, so for my dealer in Gadsden help me get one, I'm tickled.