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Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by rcgt350, Jun 29, 2007.

  1. rcgt350

    rcgt350 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone got their original Flat Gas Cap emblem for the early 67 shelby? I would like to try to have this reproduced. I have a very good graphics shop here who should be able to get it right. Just need to see some good pics. I have two pics of car #0012. Looks like it is two shades of grey, no gold color.
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    I was looking @ one of these last week. I could be mistaken but I seem to recall it was 0012. Was it a green 350? (green was definately wrong shade)
     
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    That's the one I have pics of, #0012. I saw the car in California at SAAC 27 I think. Green car, and not the right shade. Do you know him? Think it was Mike?
    Randy
     
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    Thats the one. It changed hands recently. Tango Automotive aquired it and it now belongs to a gentleman in Barrington RI. I saw it at a cruise night about 2 weeks ago. The flat cap and scoop reflectors caught my eye when it drove in. Turns out I know him as he has a KR as well. He was asking me about where to get an emblem as that one is fairly weathered. I recall somebody posting about how they got the convex one to lay flat but I don't recall where I read it.
     
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    I posted the instuctions about how to flatten out a curved one. In short...NOT in a metal roller. But this isn't what this post is about.
    I still have my original one, so, send me an email and I'll loan it to you. But, you KNOW I'll want it back.
    And for you other folks: The curved ones are stamped, the early ones might be etched, that is the difference. AND, supposedly they went to the curved ones after car #86 if I recall correctly. And: if you don't have the stamped aluminum adapter, the stay with your curved one.
     
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    If the fellow with car #12 is going to replace the emblem, could you ask him before he does if wants to sell the one that is on the car now? I would be very willing to buy it. That is the adapter in which the emblem is on. If I can get your phone number, I wouldn't mind giving you a call. Randy
     
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    RCGT and I are looking into this.....
     
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    More on the '67 Flat Gas Cap

    Hello everyone,
    Regarding the '67 350 with the flat cap, it was not car #0012 but rather #0014. I acquired this Shelby in April from its longtime owner in Michigan. It was sold by me through Tango to our customer in Rhode Island, who also bought his KR convertible from me a few years ago.

    When I picked up #0014, its original flat cap and emblem were off the car but still with it. The emblem was seperated from the cap, so I was therefore able to closely examine them. Although quite weathered, these answered a lot of my questions about this unusual piece.

    The emblem completely flat and silver in color, and the snake logo and lettering are etched, not embossed as on the later examples. The emblem diameter exactly matches that of the cap to which it is attached. It is mounted with adhesive.

    The actual cap appears to be nothing more than a machined aluminum disc. The surfaces of the cap are smooth, with a crisp "corner" where the face drops off to the edge. It is drilled all the way through in the center and countersunk to provide for one flush mounted screw hidden behind the emblem. This is to attach a stock vapor seal on the back side, which seats on the filler pipe. My memory is bit murky on the latch, but I recall that it may have used a chrome one from the stock cap. The back of the cap is drilled and tapped for the two screws that attach it to the standard hinge on the stock base, which is unaltered.

    My impression is that one could easily machine this item out of aluminum stock, given an original to use as a pattern. I wanted to take some reference photos, but my mechanic had reglued the emblem and placed the assembly back onto the car before I could get that done. Sorry!
     
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    I wasn't sure if it was silver, or the gold had faded. But when I bought my car in 1971, it was silver even then. Good to know.

    Look again on the adapter as I recall having to set up where to glue the emblem to the adapter. It seemed a little offset to me, but I had to epoxy it together with the screw in the adapter as I was using a flattened out curved emblem.
    Can't wait to start confusing the concours judges with the flat emblem being silver.
     
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    Here is a pic I took off an early car at SAAC 30. I think it was #13? Not sure exactly.
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    I saw car #0013 at the Chicago World of Wheels 4-5 years ago. Owned by what I would consider an investor as he didn't know much about the car. And later I also ran into a fellow who said he went to look at it in Canada.
    It was black so that solves the "I think it was car #0013" statement.
    By the way: seemed #0013 was wrecked and rebuilt judging by at the incorrect for an early car stuff on it.
     
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    I checked my notes and the picture I took above is indeed the #12 car not #13 as stated above.
    Jon
     
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    The flat gas cap emblem is in fact gold and not silver . Silver is what it looks like after fading . It matchs all the other emblems which are gold. The art work on all the early emblems not just the gas cap is different then the later ones as well .They were never serviced. If you bought a new fender emblem or gas cap emblem you got the "improved " later style. Bob G
     
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    I was looking at my original 67 Shelby Sales Brochure and noticed that on the picture of the Lime Green GT350, the Flat Gas Cap is present and is indeed Gold and not Silver. Another piece of evidence for us. Randy
     
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    I plan on working on this project again because I have found a graphics company that I think will be up to the task. The graphics are uniquely different on the cap and even the side emblems and dash /decklid . I plan on getting them all done so I can upgrade the emblems on 0001. Roddster I owe you one for helping me with your unique flattening procedure for the curved cap that has sufficed all these years. I will keep you posted. And those that need them can PM me when and if I am successful .
     
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    Bob, do you need an original one for the art work?
     
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    Rod, I have a original gas cap emblem and side and trunklid emblems to go by. I worked on this project before but got to a point were the company doing the work couldn't get the background gold to my satisfation (or they didn't want to try) and I scrapped the effort until now. Thank you
     
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    Bob,
    Keep me posted as to your progress on this. I would be interested in a complete set of emblems. My flat cap is very bare looking. Randy
     
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    Bob,
    What would be the cutoff for the early side fender emblems....
    My car has the oval gas cap....I believe my car had the later side emblems..do not recall any difference..

    Mark
    #130
     
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    I am ALMOST positive the side emblems changed at the same time that the flat gas cap emblem changed. It has to do with the way the emblems were made. The flat gas cap emblem and graphics were flat that is why they used a adapter to make the concave surface of the pop open cap flat. It was figured at Shelby that a concave emblem could be made which eliminated the flat adapter and at the the same time the graphics were raised up instead of flat for a more dramatic effect. So it is logical to assume that the side /trunklid emblems changed to the raised type at the same time as the gas cap emblem. Another difference are that the graphics are slightly different between the flat and the raised up type emblems. I think that had to do with designing graphics which the details would look better in a raised format. If your car did not have a flat gas cap originaly ,all of your emblems would be the improved design that continued throughout 67 production.#130 would have the later emblems
     

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