Jim the outlined spots I have seen leads me to believe it was a very=20 thin coat of a dark gray or blk primer or nothing at all. The few NOS=20= hoods/decklids I have come across over the years were not primed. I=20 doubt that the parts came already primed. =46rom a painter stand point = you=20 would not want it primed by someone else because you could not be sure=20= of the quality of the prep work done. Reports from owners and personal=20= observation indicate that the Plaza fiberglass stickers were seen on=20 later cars through out the year and to the end of production. There were=20= other companies used as well during the same time because of production=20= problems. The early metal frame hoods were not produced by Plaza=20 fiberglass .The early hoods, decklids etc. were produced by one of=20 several other companies that Shelby American had quality and supply=20 problems with. On Saturday, March 19, 2005, at 08:00 AM, ecj wrote: > Now this raises a good question. What is under an original Plazaglas=20= > decal, paint or bare fiberglass? Can anybody recall? > > Any body component like that of a manufacturer of fiberglass should=20 > have had the ability to paint or primer their parts before leaving=20 > their factory I suspect. How did Plazaglass prep the 1967 Hoods and=20 > Deck lids? Of course Plazaglas would have added their Plazaglas decal=20= > and not Shelby American. Shelby American would have to paint every = part=20 > in body color. Rather than the decal falling off I would suspect that=20= > Shelby American would try to peel off the decal. Painting over a decal=20= > would look poor in the eyes of a customer and it was not the way Ford=20= > would do it. After trying to peal off a few decals I would also = suspect=20 > that Shelby American would have told Plazaglas to stop putting the=20 > decal on. In 1967 if Plazaglass was near Toronto, Canada and Shelby=20 > American was in California, there was some lag time in the supply = chain. > > Are Plazaglas decals seen on only early model 1967 Shelbys or all of=20= > them? > > Jim Seisser > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Gaines <bgaines@kc.rr.com> > Sent: Mar 18, 2005 11:30 PM > To: Robert Gaines <bgaines@kc.rr.com> > Cc: APPTELINC@aol.com, g.kolasa@us.army.mil,=20 > shelbymustang@carmemories.com > Subject: Re: PlazaGlas Decals painted or unpainted > > I forgot to address the question of the stickers . I think they would > have been painted over if left on, but I suspect that they mostly fell > off before being painted . I have seen many more surviver = hoods/decklids > without a sticker outline then with a outline of a missing sticker (I > have only seen original stickers still on in pictures sent to me ) = which > makes me think that they fell or were taken off most of the time . = Bob > G. > On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 10:19 PM, Robert Gaines wrote: > >> Mike, It is my belief that this hood and decklid are examples of ones >> that normally would have been painted black but for what ever reason >> were not. All of the 67 vintage magazine under hood photos show a >> completely body color under hood treatment like was done in 65 66 = and >> 68 most of the time . I don't know why 67 would be any different. = Can >> you? I have observed on many surviver cars the blacked out variation = , >> the fully painted body color variation and the unpainted or black >> primer underside with body color overspray variation. As I have said >> before I think that the hood/decklids that did not get painted >> satisfactory were supposed to be blacked out but I acknowledge the >> existence of the overspray covered type like the pictures illustrate. >> When judging cars I would not and could not in good conscious deduct >> points in a concours event for one variation or another because there >> is providence for all of the variations mentioned. We all know that >> there is a way that the cars were intended to be built at the factory >> and when restoring your car I do not see any harm in fixing a mistake >> that might have happened that wasn't part of the blueprint and making >> it more like it was meant to be. By the same token you can leave a >> mistake or something irregular the way it was done workmanship wise >> also. Myself, I like to restore the cars the way they were most of = the >> time which includes a certain amount of drips ,overspray etc.in = places >> that they were commonly found . You just have to remember if there is >> something irregular do you want to explain it everytime. Maybe you = do >> and maybe you don't. Bob G. >> On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 04:03 PM, APPTELINC@aol.com wrote: >> >>> I think it depended on who was painting, and what day, and perhaps >>> even if it was the hood or rear deck... >>> Pic one is an original shot of my car before any resto was done, = with >>> the plaza sticker that became the template for the roll that was = made. >>> No over spray, clean, although the gasket hides most of the paint >>> lines.=A0Pic 2 is the "Killian" car. Super low miles, never apart, = over >>> spay was on sticker before it fell off >>> =A0 >>> Kenny & Bob, what do you think? >>> Mike >>> =A0 >>> In a message dated 3/18/2005 9:06:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> g.kolasa@us.army.mil writes: >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> =A0 >>> >>> I just had a thought on the PlazaGlas decals:=A0 wouldn't they have = been >>> painted over body color byShelby?=A0 Plaza makes the parts, installs >>> their "made by" decals, then ship the hoods to Shelby who paints = them, >>> painting over the decals, then puts the hoods and decks on the = cars.=A0 >>> Make sense? >>> >>> =A0 >>> >>> GREG >>> >>> >>> =A0 >>> > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com >
