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Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by Coralsnake, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Coralsnake

    Coralsnake Well-Known Member

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    After the exhaust pipes come out of the headers there must a be an attachment point for the pipe hangers.

    Are the pipes attached to the seat belt bolts along with the driveshaft loop? Is that a normal seat belt bolt or a long version?

    If not, where do the pipe hangers connect to the floor?
     
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    If your 65 had the side exit exhausts, look for a pair if 1/4" or 5/16" bolt holes along the pinch weld behind the door. A metal/rubber hanger block would have been mounted there.
     
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    Thanks Rod, the one I need help with is the one between the end of the pipe and the exhaust manifolds. I thought it hung off the seat belt mounting bolts (when they come through the floor) , but the driveshaft loop goes there. There is another hanger in there somehere , right?
     
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    Pete it depends. They started out with the single hanger then found that didn't work well and added (if I remember correctly ) the seat belt hanger.

    Would need to look through notes and such. Been a while since I restored a 65 though have one starting
     
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    Mine has an equalizer bracket that holds the 2 glasspacks together, then it connects to the trans tunnel. Don't know if this was factory done.
     
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    The 2 places that the hangers were mounted were behind behind the seat belt anchor holes in the floor and a hanger that mounted off of the front bolt of the rear leaf spring. It was not secured from the pinch weld. At both locations a bracket was bolted the contact points and then a rubber insulator block bolted to the brkt .A muffler clamp secured the exhaust pipe to the rubber insulator. FYI astandard auto parts store varity muffler clamp was used by Shelby and not one of the Ford clamps with the special heavy duty saddle.The pictures were some Mark H. sent me a while back. I hope this helps.
     

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    Thanks for those pictures and information Bob. IIRC the weight of the glass pack, and the fact that it was supported on the end of the tail pipe only caused the early car mufflers to sag. This resulted in the tailpipes kind of pointing upward after a while, and decreased clearance under the car.
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    I love you Bob (can I say that?) :wacko:
     
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    I'm in the process of restoring mine and your just answered the same question I had.

    Thanks a bunch.
     
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    Coralsnake,

    Thank you for your website link on the restoration pictures of your 65 Shelby, and documentation of the process. This will help me in the future if/when I decide to restore 65 #386. Right now, my GT350 is a perfect driver condition ride with that original patina.

    Happy driving! :dance:
     
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    Pete when did 337 leave (approx) San Jose?

    The dots on the springs and the brown starter relay are interesting details - depending on when the Ford part was done

    Does the pictures Bob posted match holes in your floors?

    Looks Nice !!!

    Bob .. what car are the pictures from - just asking.

    Checked 5S431 and no holes there originally. Since this was a fix (adding an additional bracket if I recall the details correctly) and a retrofit on some cars we apparently have some variations (Sorry - older scans from photos - pre digital days)

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    At the same time 003 does have holes in that area (the latest car I've taken pictures of) WIll need to look though the rest though under carriage pictures are not the easiest to take well ;) Lots of changes on 003 over the years but original floors are there

    Jeff
     
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    Jeff,

    The invoice shows it was shipped 6-25-65 with seven other cars (all around s no. 300).

    The yellow/green dots were definetly there. Send me a PM and I will tell you how to paint them so they look factory. The brown solenoid is creative license.

    leaf spring.jpg

    The car had some floor work, but I found this picture and I am pretty sure it had the holes in the floor. I am trying to locate the panel that was removed to double check. If you click on htis little picture, you can see the hole circled in the bottom right corner.

    rear floorpan.jpg

    Hope that helps. -Pete

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    The "Invoice" ?? from Ford??

    Seems late for the car. Got to ask, did all the body panels have June dates?

    Only reason I'm asking is the dotes are more often seen (from San Jose) on early than June cars. We do have at least one magazine car with one side stripes and the other dots. Likely one of the very few Shelbys that was built right at a change point but some restorers love to copy that car's detail :(

    As the for the dots I've got the spray runs traveling to the driver's side or rearward on, though I've got Dearborn examples -65-66 going to both sides) . Many of the restorers make them three times larger (and the wrong hues) than the original examples I've got. :thumbdown
     
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    I think Pete means when the car was shipped from
    Shelby. I checked the registry and 5S337 arrived at Shelby
    on 5/9/65. Four days prior to my 5S275. Will crawl under mine
    to see if there are any holes for the hangers.
    Texas Swede
     
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    Well, let me know which invoice. I have a couple copies...everything is the end of June. I did not check individual panel dates, but I can do that at some point. Be nice to me, I'm outside my element with this car....
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    Pete,
    Your car 5S337 was made by Ford in San Jose the first days of
    May 65 and most panels will be from April 65.
    Do you still have the original engine? If so, which was
    the assembly date on the engine. 5S275 was 5/3/65 and
    most likely yours are a few days earlier.
    Texas Swede
     
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    Tex how did you figure the dates????

    Even if you had Pete's Ford VIN you would barely be able to guess with in a month or two

    Just asking :)
     
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    Jeff,
    According to the SAAC registry 5S337 was received at Shelby on
    5/9/65 and my car 5S275 on 5/13/65. My car was
    produced arround 5/7-10 as the original engine assembly date
    is 5/3/65. Most likely Pete's car was produced just a few days earlier.
    Don't believe that Ford had the 65 Shelby bound cars sitting for
    any length of time at San Jose after being ready.
    At Shelby, it's a completely different situation. 5S337 was sitting for
    weeks until work started on 5/28 and finished on 6/1.
    Work started on my car on 5/17, i.e. 4 days after being received
    and was finished on 5/20.
    If Pete's car has the original engine, it would be easy to make
    a very accurate estimation of production date at Ford in San Jose
    based on the engine assembly date and the receipt at Shelby.
    Texas Swede
     

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