65 Sfm 5s 114

That's odd. Haven't realized that after looking at that picture
for hours. Black cowl area and white headers. Wonder what we
find next.
/Merry Christmas, Texas Swede

 

miss-understood description...
oops!

I think they shot the top of the cowl flange with flat black to obscure the typically ugly fill job around the exp-brace bracket.. Anticipating lots of publicity photos being taken.

 

The thicker rings were used in 65 on the 1326 front shocks.
I know that cars in the 400's had those shocks.
Texas Swede

 

I see what looks like specks of black paint on the top edges of the header flanges. I feel that the white looking headers actually might be bare steel after the cheep black header paint burns and flacks off. The valve covers have been off and the lock washers not replaced . Great vintage photo. You can still see a edge of the engine sticker on the waterpump peeking through. I can't tell if the paint on the cowl is over the export brace and bolts or under . If over I would guess it was for photo reasons it was done . If under-?

 

Here are some interesting things I noticed.
..the alternator spacer looks dark and different.. Is it the cast iron one?
..the forward monte-carlo bar bolt is sans star washer?? Is this typical not a San hose type body bolt?
merry christmas
jimbo

 

Those are good clear photos.. It is such a treat to see original stuff.
jimbo

 

Very interesting observations. If you look carefully at the center part of the cowl reinforcement plate there appears to be an area that is still light colored. Is it possible the dark isn't paint at all but a heavy coating of dust from that wild trip?

 

Yes , I let this go for a while, but I think Dave has it right, man Swede, your are serious, you looked at this photo for a couple of hours.............? The bolt hole for the Monte Carlo bar is correct, when the Mustangs went done the San Jose assembly line they got the star washered bolts with at least one or two types of bolt head identification markings. When the cars were modified at Shelby American additional holes were drilled in order to mount the Monte Carlo bar. The bolts used for these holes were serrated at their base which also served as a way to "lock" the bolt in place. The markings etched into my Monte Carlo car tells which bolt were which. At least this is the way it was for 5S284. How about the circular hole in the front of the coil bracket . Most of the photos I have seen of the press cars taken for the magazines had this holes, other GT350's which were suppose to be cars not having been modified do not have the hole, #284's coil bracket did not have the hole. Does Mannel's book go over this? When ever I find original photos I try to post them on the web site, if anyone has anything to post on the GT350 site, let me know, it is a way to share what we all enjoy so we can all learn. Hope everyone had a great Christmas and Dave it is nice to see your tach working on this forum, your car doesn't really red line at 6,500 does it?, I thought James Cahn red lined his at 7,000, but I guess he was S1MS? Mark Hovander

 

I'll admit I cheated a little. I have the full resolution image so it's a little easier to see these fine details compared to the one I resized for the website. Still, it was something I'd never noticed before, your hint about reading the details of the story was a good one!

Hey Mark, good to see you posting here again! Mannel's book does go over this. From memory (very scary) earlier coils had a locating bump that fit into the hole in the bracket which was phased out between 64 and 65. There was likely a transition with some cars getting that bracket with the hole but coils without the locator bump.

I only set the redline at 6,500 in case my wife has to back the car out of the garage to get her bike out.

 

I believe the book indicates the transition ocoured between 65 and 66. Many Shelby's Ford built in 65 have the early style coil and bracket. I would have thought Marks car would be early enough to have it .

 

JD Larson sells a NOS coil in the Ford box that's dated
5DCB, 1965, April, Third Week correct? and it has a
location button on it. To me that means that they still
made them until the end of April 65. Most likely
the brackets with the hole was used as well even
if they didn't fill any function because the coil wasn't placed
on the intake. I use a restored coil dated 5DCB with the button and
the bracket with a hole on my early May (San Jose) Shelby 65.
Texas Swede

 

Just got home from work and checked Mannel's book. Bob is correct, told you it was scary to rely on memory! On page 5-41 it says the dimpled coils were phased out during 1965 production and since the bracket hole no longer had a purpose it was also gradually phased out. On page 6-30 it says the bracket with the mounting hole could also be found on 66 models but doesn't mention the dimpled coil. Most likely a long transition as coils, then brackets were depleted.

 

don't feel bad I have forgotten a few things myself lately . I recomend everyone who has a Shelby smallblock to purchase the Mannel book on smallblocks it is the most complete reference on the small blocks and assisories out there . It should be in every Shelby reference library.

 

http://www.fordsmallblock.com/

And Bob is a great guy.

 

It looks like the front header bolt head is not a header bolt.

 

Also the bolt holding the horn is not a star washer bolt..
It is like the front monte-carlo bar bolt.