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Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by Overbored, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. Overbored

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    :mellow: Hi folks, new to the forum here. I joined to learn more about my opportunity to purchase a 1969 GT-350. I've always been a Mustang fan but never seriously considered a Shelby purchase and need help. This car is for sale out of a co-worker late father's estate. The Dad purchased the car in 1983 with a wrecked rear end but don't know how significant. He did say as part of the restoration the car was laser aligned proffesionally. Story is he did a nut and bolt resto himself and has never driven the car on the open road. It was started 1X month but basically has remained under a tarp in the garage. The interior is original and in very good shape. 5 items were said to be wrong with the car. 1) non original block with original heads. 2) non original 4 spd trans. maybe even of a different make. 3) Headlights don't work. 4) Non original limited slip rear end from a Lincoln. 5) the damage history in the back. He's asking $45K. Thanks for any advice?
     
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    Go look at it and see what shape its in. If laser straight is BS and looks like he painted it with a broom than 45k maybe too much. If its top notch its a steal. I would look at it first by yourself. If you need expert advice try to get without letting others know the cars location. You may not have as much time as you think. ...take a camera ..we like pictures.
     
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    make sure the VIN has a "48" in it. like 9F02M481111
     
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    Thanks. I've known his son 20 years and have no reason to expect a problem but obviously will be cautious. I've been reading good information online and have a VIN explanation to bring with. I saw the car about 10 years ago when I had some Europeans in town for a visit and as it turned out they were Shelby nuts. I arranged a visit for them to see their first "in person" Shelby and have to admit it was exciting to hear it crank and back out of the garage. I do want to learn about indicators of a real Shelby verses clones, aside from the VIN.
     
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    Learning about these thing is an ongoing process and is as much about what you see that you shouldn't as looking for evidence you expect to see. Then sitting down and evaluating all the facts.

    Allot IMHO in this deal depends on the condition of the car before the wreck (rust, panel replacements.....) and the quality of the repairs (can you tell, see or find evidence of the wreck or repair?)
     
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    Thanks Jeff.
    I asked him about any rust and panel replacement work done and the only mention was the trunk floor area. A panel had been cut out and new welded in. My friend had done a great deal of the work, including body and paint, alongside his father so he is very familiar with it. I'm sure the restoration pictures will tell alot also. The car looked great 10 years go when I last saw it but then again, I wasn't looking at it as a potential purchase. More to come after I get to take a critical look at it. Thanks for your expert advice and I'm sure to get back with you if you don't mind.
     
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    Just my opinion...

    The shape of the car is going to make a lot of difference in what it's worth. Not having the original block or trans is a big item. The block was stamped with the VIN, and the tranny has a tag with the same, so they match the car. I wouldn't worry too much about the rearend - since it's a GT350, there are a lot of housings/pumkins accross Mustang/Cougar out there that are correct for your application (i.e. you wont have to track down a big bearing 31 spline set-up)

    The electrical on the 69 is concerning - may require a fair amount of work to fix and I'm not aware of replacement "OEM" harnesses for the console stuff. It has driven me crazy on mine.

    The 69/70 is not cheap to restore - lots of unique pieces on the body, and I found i wasn't satisified with any of the repop stuff available when I did mine in '99. I would advise taking a really good look at the fiberglass and plan on repairing what you have if able, or tracking down NOS or used. You will be happier in the end.

    A correct and complete, restored GT350 coupe will go for between 80-100k. That would not be a 100 point, concourse trailer queen - they would go for more. How much more would be a subject of debate.

    Only you can decide if it's worth it, but I would say 45k sounds like a very reasonable price, worthy of the jump if the car is solid.
     
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    Yes the most important step... and one best not rushed.

    Stand back and look close... and just get a feel of whjat has taken place over the years with the car.

    See something a bit off... look deeper to find out why.

    From this angle and another till you figure out why something was done.

    Some times the answer is simple.. and quite understandable... others are just plane stupid :(

    Remember..... ALWAYS compare what the dollars (if you didn't buy that particular car) would purchase instead. The current and future values are uncertain IMHO and always understand that builders are are rarely the bargin they appear (correct finished area more often are)

    Good luck
     
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    If its rust free, the previous work good ,buy it!!. Shebys at 45000 are hard to find.
     
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    I'll have to take a few pics when I see the car, I'm sure that will create some interest. If properly restored, how does a car tolerate sitting in a closed garage for over 20 years? Like I said earlier, it was started about once a month but not driven any distance. I worry about it declining from non-use!
     
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    You are worrying to much !!! Look the car over if it is solid and all there for the price he is asking you should buy it.
    You know it has been sitting and you WILL have to go through the mechanicals but that is what you would do on any old car you would buy.This is how you will learn more about your car and is also the biggest part of the hobby. You will put your Blood,Sweat and money and make it yours.

    Good luck !!!!!!:thumbup:
    Dominic
     
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    Yep. Your right. Thanks! :)
     
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    I completely agree, especially about the blood, sweat, and money part. Don't forget the tears either. Busting your knuckles while trying to break a bolt loose is like a rite of passage. That has brought me almost to the point of tears many times. Somehow a car has never felt like mine until I've taken it apart and put it back together.
     
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    :) I think I had my initiation back in High School (1981) trying to keep a 65' 289 Fastback going. Not knowing what I was doing but learning alot. The machanical part itself isn't bothering me, I have just lost track of Shelby values and don't want to overpay. From what you all are writing, the car is priced right as long as it's solid and no major "issues".

    By the way Roy S., I've spent alot of time in a 67' GT-500 commuting back and forth to High School. Great memories!:lmao: It was my best friends car. We both worked at gas stations to scrape together car money. That was back when a 17 yr old could save enough to get a good Shelby. Times have changed. I take it you have one, your a lucky guy.
     
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    Overbored,

    Bought it in 1977 for $2400. Had to get the cash from my parents to buy the thing and then they turned around and forgave the loan as a college graduation present. Pictures are at http://www.s-techent.com/photos67.htm
     
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    Just took a look at your pics Roy. I say again, your a lucky guy. Noticed the PA plates. I purchased a English Mastiff puppy from a guy named Bill MacTaggart just South of Pittsburg. I'm down South on the LA coast.
     
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    I figured that no one would have S7MS-427 and I was right. I like them and they are pretty unique.
     

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