I'm doing a 66 GT 350 clone and need some info on Sapphire Blue. I have looked all over the internet and found the color code to be 13075. My friend whos painting the car ran that number in his PPG computer and it dosent come up. He called his PPG rep and he said the number is no good and cross referenced it to 12832 which is Guardsman blue. I need a good PPG or Sherwin-Williams # for Sapphire Blue......
Check the nvsaac.com web page. It shows the R-M reference number as A-1787. It has been so long since I did my GT350, I cannot find the paperwork with the paint code for Sapphire blue. I expect any of the parts suppliers like Tony Branda would have the correct information.
My Branda catalog lists the PPG number for Sapphire Blue as 13075 (12832 does indeed correspond with Gaurdsman per Branda). Josh
Thanks, but I have all those numbers and none have helped. I have the PPG #13075, Dupont #4735, the R-M# A-1787, the 66 Code "G" from the T-Bird. My painter has all this info but none has helped him with the correct # for PPG.
The painter is a friend of mine and a top notch painter, we're just having trouble getting the proper code for his PPG computer for the Sapphire mix
Interesting.........the 13075 PPG paint chip for Sapphire Blue 1966 Thunderbird does not look like Sapphire Blue.
I don't know if this will help but I have an original 1966 DuPont refinish catalog that lists two codes for: Ford G Sapphire Blue(Thunderbird only) Lucite Code 4735-L and Dulux Code 181-97774 The chip shown in the catalog is the correct Sapphire color. Murph
CRich, Those original codes are usually out of date. Most manufacturers have changed formulas over the years. If they remaster the formula using different toners it is called an offset colour. Usually it can be pretty close, but sometimes the metallic particles may end up bigger or smaller, or the shade might be just a bit off. Sometimes that offset colour is linked in their computer to the old code, but not always. I'm not sure of this specific colour, but many of the old paints also used ground fish scales as part of the 'metallic' look, along with ground aluminum. It is almost impossible to find any paint with scales in it today, as everyone has switched to mica. I usually call the PPG Colour Library when my paint supplier has problems figuring out formulas. The number I have for them is 440-572-6100. PPG also uses a device called a Prophet that can scan original paint and create a formula. Sometimes the Colour Library may already have a Prophet formula available. You can also go to Auto Colour Library at http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/ and get just about anything mixed up. They are usually pretty good. You might want to use the VIN for a real Sapphire Blue car if you order from them. Calling a Mustang spcific restoration shop might also help, as opposed to the corner body shop guy (Sorta what Ron said). They usually already have a custom mix that is perfectly matched to the original (as opposed to the offset) colour. Let me know if you still end up at dead ends - I know a couple of people who might be able to come up with something. Hope this helps, Steve
