1967 Running Production Changes

I found better examples.

 

Roy, for your consideration. 1.2 front nose assembly

1. 
   one piece with fiberglass mat backing
   • 
     2 piece with fiberglass mat backing
     • 
       one piece with chop gun style fiberglass backing.

1.22 tail light wiring cover(in order of usage)

1. 
   loose wire
   • tape wrapped
     • vinyl tubes

2.2? GT350 distributor

1. FOMOCO marked distributor
   1. 
      Autolite marked distributor
   4.9 door panel brushed trim

 

Roy:

4 versions just like you wrote it.

Kenny

 

Roy ,in 1.2 the third nose discribed should read 1 piece W/chop gun fiberglass backing. Thank you.

 

Roy, Kenny B. brought up another Ford production change. The early pop open caps had FOMOCO in block letters and the later cap were Autolite marked. FYI The later service caps were different from the assemblyline caps in that they only had the C7 engineering number .

 

Hi again to 67 fans.To clarify a few points,The material Bob is describing for the nose,also holds for the other fiberglass parts,and should be called "CLOTH"
and it has a uniform mesh/weave which appears screen like.Mat is multidirectional and heavier. With the extremely tight contours of a nose,it would be very difficult to use a chopper gun to make this part.The early cars use a steel framed hood which was made by Borg Warner.Multiple companies were suppliers to SAI for the fiberglass parts,and here is a partial list.OBA,Berry,and later Plaza.Often these parts have labels cast into them,or they are actually laminated under a layer of resin-typically painted over.Also for taillight panels..I would still like to see the early type mentioned,as they are retained with 4 nuts visible inside the trunk-one on each side of the fuel filler pipe,(which are very easy to see with the trunk open,) and 1 on each outer edge,near the seam between the 1/4 panel and the metal taillamp panel.This panel also has no flange on the upper edge that wraps into the trunk,and no ears on the sides that go under the 1/4 panel extensions.Most that I have seen were made by OBA and have a pair of cast in numbers They are OBA 11369 4
and S7MS 6340325 A these are on the lower edge of the panel.There are other differences in these panels as well and were a production change.later panels were riveted in place,a much faster method of production.Thanks again for your effort,P.D.

 

I'm sure the finalized list will be out shortly. Here is the next level to discuss:
How reliable will the information be? Is there a way to attach a formula to the information so folks can decide whether or not what is said about a car can be relied upon as definative. Or are we on our own?
Here is why I bring this up. I bought my car (#0036) in 1971, 3rd owner, and niether of the first two owners where mechanics. A couple of minor wrecks. It was complete and running. Seems to be fitting within what is known to be correct early features. But, how about a car that was wrecked, stolen, stripped, raced, abused? I'm glad they are still here, and, with this list, one can propbably put a car back together that would match within the VIN number area where certain features have changed.

Interested in your opinions.

 

Hi Roy:

I think your doing a great job in taking on this task!

I understand that you have invested a lot of time into the gathering and inputing of the data on your website. I'm not the smartest guy when it comes to knowledge of the production changes on the Shelbys. I still find it a bit overwhelming when I review the list of changes on your website. What I have learned so far has come from restoring my Shelby, this Forum and the SAAC Forum. For me, I'm a hands on picture kinda guy. If forum members were to pool together and get detailed photos showing the production changes, would it be possible to add those pictures to Production Changes site? I frequent the site you have madeand I find it to be very interesting. The idea of adding pictures in my opinion would really make it POP!

I have seen many photos get posted on this site and SAAC'S site so I don't think it will be a problem getting them. I know its more work.

Let us know your thoughts.

Thanks!!

Jim

If you decide its a good idea...i'll start you off with a photo of taillights with tailight bezels through hole picture...lol

 

Hi Roy and all: I think that parts were hand laminated,and we know that early cars use cloth on all the fiberglass parts.Check out any steel framed part(hood or trunk lid)and you can see the weave.A chopper gun uses a material known as woven roving,which is sprayed on and mixed with the resin as it is sprayed,which leaves a rough,or coarse texture.Hope this explains things better

 

Awesome!! I look forward to it!

Jim

 

I have posted some pictures of the different typs of fiberglass used on assemblyline cars. One set is of a original early hood and the back side of a early nose piece looking down at the park lights . The other two are of the later variety. The later version has a completly different type of texture . I have always thought it was shot from a gun but however it was applied it is distinctly different. This can be the first side by side comparison. A picture sometimes is worth a thousand words.

 

Hi to all 67 fans! First special thanks to Bob Gaines for the pictures of fiberglass parts...they show a perfect example of cloth in the first 2 pictures,you can see the weave which looks like screen.In the next 2 pictures you can see what mat looks like--the term multidirectional may best describe it.They also show the correct for 67 only...parking lamp retainers,which are band type---not cup type that 68's use.Thanks for a great example!!And not to forget Roy,I think it would be safe to list this as Early cars use a steel frame hood with cloth backed fiberglass.Later cars use an all fiberglass hood with mat type fiberglass.Louvered hoods are also all fiberglass type,mat backed.With pictures we can quickly show these differences and it really helps explain the details!!! GREAT WORK!!

 

Bob,
What color or finish is the the front park light housing? Looks like the outer piece is gold dichromate? What about the light housing itself? Randy

 

The potmetal housings are body color and the park lights fit inside

The housings in the picture are too pitted on the back side to be used on a show car. They should be smooth. They are in a place that only a nosey person like myself would notice however.