How to tell original 10 spoke wheels?

The wheels in the pictures are Branda reproductions, dead giveaway is they don't have tapered spokes.

 

Go to www.thecoralsnake.com ,...Pete Disher has some very good info on the 10 spoke rims

 

Well, I am not going to much help, but I can tell you 10 spokes were not an option on 1968 Shelbys. All cars were hubcap cars. The exception being a few (less than 5) cars that were shipped overseas.

There are about half dozen versions of this wheel cast over the last forty years. Here is a link to some more information. Maybe someone will chime in as to what the oldest version would be....

http://www.thecoralsnake.com/spokes.HTML

 

on the spoke where is the "taper"? I looked and dont see it. Also do the wheels normally have a shine or dullness on the smooth surfaces?

Jim
#3000

 

Look at the five spokes that come off the center hub, it is easiest to see the taper of the spoke there. The spoke is wider at the hub and becomes more narrow as it reaches the rim. Some wheels have a constant width spoke.

 

OK. Here is a pic of the wheel from #3000. What can you tell me by looking at this wheel?

Jim

 

Those are definetly tapered spokes. That makes it an "older version" of the wheel. I think the period correct wheels have the valve stems between the spokes, but maybe someone can correct me if I am wrong.

 

I think the "tony branda" early 10 spokes, before the re-tooling had the value stem between the spokes,not on the rim lip, taper on the spokes. His also had flat washers with the lug nuts.

 

That is one of the 80's reissues. It can be identified by the countersunk valve stem and the shank style washered lug nuts.

Pete I could never correct you, but you are misinformed What we would call vintage (67-68 versions) had valve on outer flange like the one pictured but they aren't countersunk.

 

You can correct me if I am wrong, there is a reason why you never do ...

 

If we can agree to which ones came first , I will add that to the webpage

 

Too easy.
The first were the S7MS 1007 D which had the tapered lug seats and the stem on the outer rim. First revision came a year about a year later which was under same part number and identical but had a 1/8" cast in place spacer to attempt to clear the 68 calipers. The reissues or recuts are from the original molds made by CS wheel corp in the late 70's ,early 80's and have the shank style lug seats and can have the stem either between the spokes or on the outer rim depending on when manufactured.
All these have the tapered spokes. Some of the reissues have S7MS 1007 D cast in the back of spoke, some don't.

 

By reissue do you mean aftermarket like a Tony Branda knock-off?

Jim

sorry...you already answered that in the last post. Looks like i need glasses

 

I was told that that this is a correct wheel for 67. Tapered spokes and no countersink on the valve stem.

 

Can someone confirm what version wheel I have. My wheels are just like the photo of "Ujak's" wheel except I can't tell if his wheels use a washer or a tapered lug nut. My wheels use a tapered lug nut. However, my wheels do not have any markings, numbers, or stampings of any kind on the inside of the wheel. SAAC documentation states my car came with 15" 10 spoke wheels, does anybody know approximately how many cars came with 10 spoke wheels?

 

1GT500- the wheels on my 67 and in the picture do have a tapered lug nut. These wheels were on the car when I bought it in 1979 and I have no idea if they are original to the car.

 

Ujak, do you know what version/generation wheel you have. Also, does yours have any marking or stampings on the rear of the wheel?

 

1GT500- Not sure what version/generation wheels I have, but several people that have gone over the car indicated they were "period correct" . I do not recall if there are any markings on the rear of the wheel but will check as soon as the weather warms up.