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"A" code instead of "K" code fender stamp

Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by Shelby~gt350#3000, Oct 13, 2007.

  1. Shelby~gt350#3000

    Shelby~gt350#3000 Well-Known Member

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    Hmm. I had to read that a few times. We will probably never know the answer. If its "sealed in stone" .

    67 Shelby SAAC registrant Dave Mathews reply to the question (permission granted to post quote)

     
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    Snakepit Well-Known Member

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    So (from Dave's knowledge) we only have maybe a couple dozen of each (350's and 500's) that were stamped incorrectly. But possibly a few more.

    And since they were made into Shelbys in no particular ordered their Shelby VIN's (for the mis-stamped cars are all over the place.

    Lot less than "urban legend" had it.

    Thanks for the effort people
     
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    Shelby~gt350#3000 Well-Known Member

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    lol, ya that didnt help all that much. Im sure SAAC knows every car misstamped. This is like the "Z" stamping on the fender plate. We might get close on our own figuring it out but will the hard core facts ever be known?:blink:
     
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    I've always figured it was:
    489 Ford Mustangs with the K engine

    AND

    1175 Shelby Cobra GT 350's (Obviously K engine)

    Total: 1664

    Also, SAAC WILL NOT give anyone both vin numbers. They will only "agree" that the two numbers you give them agree with their records as being a Shelby. For good reason, keep the fakes out.
     
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    I know they wont give out exacts and im sure all Shelby owners can appreciate that. It will always be a neat little fact about #3000 and a few handful of others that share a Ford BOO-BOO.

    Well one other car has come forward so far #3014. Thats 2!..lol
     
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    My 67 GT 350 has the fender stamping with K, and that vin is double stamped too. Engine is stamped with VIN on right hand side above oil pan rail and 4spd is stamped on bottom rear pad. 999 history report says it's an A code and Marti report lists at top as an A code. Early production car. Randy
     
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    Yes, from my understanding of the Ford records, all of the GT350's are in the data base as "A" codes since that was how the paper work (as shown on the add delete sheets) identifies these cars. On paper that all started as A codes but when built as K codes. This is what likely confused some worker that day
     
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    Hi all. I finally got a Marti Report on my Shelby. The vehicle order image shows the "A" code. The serial number information shows the "k" code.

    Other odd thing is the statistics window says 1174 GT350'S produced. Not 1175.

    Jim
    #3000
     
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    Reading all the replies to this thread makes me wonder if the cars were built during the changeover of what some call real Shelby's to when Ford started building the remainder of the 67 cars. Something to think about!! Also The possibility that there may be some K codes out there in A code cars. ???
    I am sure the reports are documented though !! ??? A very interesting concept for all of us to consider...we are human...I think!! LOL
     
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    That is a urban legend. Ford didn't start building the Shelby's back East until 1968 production. The 67's were still built by SA in CA but they did get help sent from Detroit to streamline production. Fred Goodell was the one Detroit sent to straighten things out. I have heard that urban legend about Ford taking over production or moving production in the 2nd half of 67 model year in various forms since the mid 70's. Bob
     
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    Hi all on the K and A code subject.I have asked for the total production breakdown by engine code and as it is not real clear to some,Here goes 1 more time.The K code is blended in with A code in the Ford system and the Q code is blended in with the S code.Kevin Marti can seperate them and has the exact numbers produced for each year starting with 1967.When you look at a v.o.i. it will show an engine code of A if your cars vin is K. all of the reports are done this way.There was no concern by the feds because the cars were registered by the Shelby vin.Often production figures are quoted in magazines and are not accurate..several books also fuel urban legends and as Bob says some have been around for a long time..maybe we need to do a thread on each point..and set the record straight.
    Regards P.D.:guitar:
     
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    Let me shake the pot. Suppose you bought an A code Mustang back when, and it happened to be built in the same area of most of the boo-boo real K code builds. And it was built with a real K engine. But it's a Mustang, and it's 43 years later. Tough sell today, no?
     
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    Yes tough to sell to others IMHO since the reason for the A verses K in the Shelby VINs was the special order process and the way the cars were built on paper (ordered as A codes, engine deleted and K code replaced it to minimize the needed changes in pulleys and bracket sort of stuff on paper)

    I'm sure such a car would be supported by some creative paperwork showing it was an experimental, prototype, and/or secret project for an astronaut or someone important but now dead ;)

    Of course the story must include that the engines were swapped after they were invoiced but returned to the San Jose plant building 2B so that the details would not be covered in a Marti report.

    Does it sound believable now???
     

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