Nope, you did a fine job of explaining how the proxie bidding works. It is possible to see when another bid is made by looking at the times that the high bid by the same bidder rises but that can get confusing. I am wondering too, if Golden could not be a shill who has put in his proxie bid at whatever price the seller really wants to let the car go at. The only problem w/ a shill is the vendor does get stung with the final value fee as there is no way they can go to eBay and say they set it up. Rob 68 - 3236 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wells <wwells249101MI@comcast.net> Date: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:29 pm Subject: RE: $50K bid on "recreation" 66 Hertz??? > two thoughts come to mind : (1) golden675 is like a > goldenparachute package, > or a golden shill..........OR......(2) not knowing the details of > proxybidding, but would this possibly be an example of someone > having placed a > high proxy bid and then when someone ELSE places a bid below the > proxy max, > the proxy keeps UPPING the ante til it reaches its max, thus > looking like > Golden was playing games. I placed several bids once for an item, > each time > it said my bid was not high enough as i had been outbid. i gave > up. my bid > never showed. but someone elses did in succession like this > persons bid. as > it was told to me afterwards, the person outbidding me had a high > proxy, or > higher than i was going to bid, and the bid history looked like > this one. > now, i dont know if i was fed bs or not, so if someone here is > ebay savvy > relative to proxy bidding, i would welcome the chance to get > informed. bill, > not always the sharpest knife in the drawer,but willing to be > sharpened -----Original Message----- >