Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?

Last time they were at Road America they were too cheap to rent the entire
facilty and it was a disaster. (Funny that the local Northwoods region seems
to be able to afford that!) They had the car show and the parts swap buried
so far in the back acreage in an area Id never been and Ive been going
there since 1963. That was the year they had the banquet at the track and
the Thunderstorm blew the tent away. Theres a problem because they want a
large central hotel facility so they can sell the $35 chicken dinners and
get a bunch of rooms comped. Its a business and it doesnt make any sense to
not make money.

A denver convention makes total sense, theyve never been anywhere near
there, the Museum is right there and theres a dragstrip and road race track
that can be rented for next to nothing. Hotels are everywhere. Other than
the fact that you have to drive 500 while looking at nothing but corn fields
it would make a great convention in my humble opinion

>From: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>To: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>,<ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0500
>
>How about Road America?
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>
>To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:58 PM
>Subject: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>
>
>>Mike,
>>I'm glad that my mind wasn't slipping... RE: SAAC 32
>>
>>Where do you guys want to go?
>>Maybe we can give a suggestion list to SAAC
>>
>>
>>TRACKS Suggestion List.... (maybe someplace we haven't been for awhile or
>>ever...)
>>
>>1) Denver, CO - Would be nice. See the Shelby Museum too!
>>
>>2)
>>
>>3)
>>
>>4)
>>
>>5)
>>
>>
>>You guys name it...
>>
>>Thanks, Jim Elsmore
>>
>>'66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car!
>>'66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer
>>'67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process
>>
>>visit www.nvsaac.com
>>
>>

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Jim and all-I recommended VIR to Kopec a couple of years ago and those were
his exact objections. I wonder what he's done to overcome them? There is
no one hotel in Danville, VA big enuf to handle it. Closest is the
Sheraton-Koury Center in Greensboro, about 1 hr. away. The BMW CCA is
holding their OKTOBERFEST there this Sept. w/3 days of driving schools and
autocross at VIR, Concours at the Grandover Resort in Greensboro but all
other social events at the Sheraton.
Regards, Stan
----- Original Message -----
From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts@msn.com>
To: <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>; <info@nvsaac.com>;
<ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?


> Last time they were at Road America they were too cheap to rent the
entire
> facilty and it was a disaster. (Funny that the local Northwoods region
seems
> to be able to afford that!) They had the car show and the parts swap
buried
> so far in the back acreage in an area Id never been and Ive been going
> there since 1963. That was the year they had the banquet at the track and
> the Thunderstorm blew the tent away. Theres a problem because they want a
> large central hotel facility so they can sell the $35 chicken dinners and
> get a bunch of rooms comped. Its a business and it doesnt make any sense
to
> not make money.
>
> A denver convention makes total sense, theyve never been anywhere near
> there, the Museum is right there and theres a dragstrip and road race
track
> that can be rented for next to nothing. Hotels are everywhere. Other than
> the fact that you have to drive 500 while looking at nothing but corn
fields
> it would make a great convention in my humble opinion
>
> >From: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
> >Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
> >To: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>,<ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
> >Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
> >Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0500
> >
> >How about Road America?
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>
> >To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:58 PM
> >Subject: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
> >
> >
> >>Mike,
> >>I'm glad that my mind wasn't slipping... RE: SAAC 32
> >>
> >>Where do you guys want to go?
> >>Maybe we can give a suggestion list to SAAC
> >>
> >>
> >>TRACKS Suggestion List.... (maybe someplace we haven't been for awhile
or
> >>ever...)
> >>
> >>1) Denver, CO - Would be nice. See the Shelby Museum too!
> >>
> >>2)
> >>
> >>3)
> >>
> >>4)
> >>
> >>5)
> >>
> >>
> >>You guys name it...
> >>
> >>Thanks, Jim Elsmore
> >>
> >>'66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car!
> >>'66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer
> >>'67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process
> >>
> >>visit www.nvsaac.com
> >>
> >>
>
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Stan:
Interesting that Kopec finds a 1 hour drive too far for hotel to track. It
seems to me that Lime Rock, in Rick's backyard, is about an hour's drive as
well.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM@triad.rr.com>
To: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts@msn.com>; <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>;
<info@nvsaac.com>; <ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?


> Jim and all-I recommended VIR to Kopec a couple of years ago and those
> were
> his exact objections. I wonder what he's done to overcome them? There is
> no one hotel in Danville, VA big enuf to handle it. Closest is the
> Sheraton-Koury Center in Greensboro, about 1 hr. away. The BMW CCA is
> holding their OKTOBERFEST there this Sept. w/3 days of driving schools and
> autocross at VIR, Concours at the Grandover Resort in Greensboro but all
> other social events at the Sheraton.
> Regards, Stan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts@msn.com>
> To: <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>; <info@nvsaac.com>;
> <ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>
>
>> Last time they were at Road America they were too cheap to rent the
> entire
>> facilty and it was a disaster. (Funny that the local Northwoods region
> seems
>> to be able to afford that!) They had the car show and the parts swap
> buried
>> so far in the back acreage in an area Id never been and Ive been going
>> there since 1963. That was the year they had the banquet at the track and
>> the Thunderstorm blew the tent away. Theres a problem because they want a
>> large central hotel facility so they can sell the $35 chicken dinners
>> and
>> get a bunch of rooms comped. Its a business and it doesnt make any sense
> to
>> not make money.
>>
>> A denver convention makes total sense, theyve never been anywhere near
>> there, the Museum is right there and theres a dragstrip and road race
> track
>> that can be rented for next to nothing. Hotels are everywhere. Other than
>> the fact that you have to drive 500 while looking at nothing but corn
> fields
>> it would make a great convention in my humble opinion
>>
>> >From: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>> >Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>> >To: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>,<ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>> >Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>> >Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0500
>> >
>> >How about Road America?
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>
>> >To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:58 PM
>> >Subject: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>> >
>> >
>> >>Mike,
>> >>I'm glad that my mind wasn't slipping... RE: SAAC 32
>> >>
>> >>Where do you guys want to go?
>> >>Maybe we can give a suggestion list to SAAC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>TRACKS Suggestion List.... (maybe someplace we haven't been for awhile
> or
>> >>ever...)
>> >>
>> >>1) Denver, CO - Would be nice. See the Shelby Museum too!
>> >>
>> >>2)
>> >>
>> >>3)
>> >>
>> >>4)
>> >>
>> >>5)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>You guys name it...
>> >>
>> >>Thanks, Jim Elsmore
>> >>
>> >>'66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car!
>> >>'66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer
>> >>'67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process
>> >>
>> >>visit www.nvsaac.com
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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All-Agreed about the drive-time. No big deal. Frankly, I got the
impression from Kopec that there was some NIH factor involved...He probably
wanted it to be his idea, not mine. I offered to help in the planning but
never got a call. He and the SAAC "In-Crowd" do their own thing.
There are a few deterrents to VIR (no covered garages-only a huge
paddock, lack of civilization close by, etc.) but the track itself makes up
for it. If you should get bored running VIR, then, by all means, your next
best track has to be Nurburgring!
Regards, Stan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronald Robertson" <ronald.robertson@sympatico.ca>
To: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM@triad.rr.com>; "James G Cowles"
<shelbyparts@msn.com>; <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>; <info@nvsaac.com>;
<ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?


> Stan:
> Interesting that Kopec finds a 1 hour drive too far for hotel to track. It
> seems to me that Lime Rock, in Rick's backyard, is about an hour's drive
as
> well.
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM@triad.rr.com>
> To: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts@msn.com>; <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>;
> <info@nvsaac.com>; <ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:05 PM
> Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>
>
> > Jim and all-I recommended VIR to Kopec a couple of years ago and those
> > were
> > his exact objections. I wonder what he's done to overcome them? There
is
> > no one hotel in Danville, VA big enuf to handle it. Closest is the
> > Sheraton-Koury Center in Greensboro, about 1 hr. away. The BMW CCA is
> > holding their OKTOBERFEST there this Sept. w/3 days of driving schools
and
> > autocross at VIR, Concours at the Grandover Resort in Greensboro but all
> > other social events at the Sheraton.
> > Regards, Stan
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts@msn.com>
> > To: <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>; <info@nvsaac.com>;
> > <ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
> >
> >
> >> Last time they were at Road America they were too cheap to rent the
> > entire
> >> facilty and it was a disaster. (Funny that the local Northwoods region
> > seems
> >> to be able to afford that!) They had the car show and the parts swap
> > buried
> >> so far in the back acreage in an area Id never been and Ive been going
> >> there since 1963. That was the year they had the banquet at the track
and
> >> the Thunderstorm blew the tent away. Theres a problem because they want
a
> >> large central hotel facility so they can sell the $35 chicken dinners
> >> and
> >> get a bunch of rooms comped. Its a business and it doesnt make any
sense
> > to
> >> not make money.
> >>
> >> A denver convention makes total sense, theyve never been anywhere near
> >> there, the Museum is right there and theres a dragstrip and road race
> > track
> >> that can be rented for next to nothing. Hotels are everywhere. Other
than
> >> the fact that you have to drive 500 while looking at nothing but corn
> > fields
> >> it would make a great convention in my humble opinion
> >>
> >> >From: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
> >> >Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
> >> >To: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>,<ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
> >> >Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
> >> >Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0500
> >> >
> >> >How about Road America?
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>
> >> >To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:58 PM
> >> >Subject: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>Mike,
> >> >>I'm glad that my mind wasn't slipping... RE: SAAC 32
> >> >>
> >> >>Where do you guys want to go?
> >> >>Maybe we can give a suggestion list to SAAC
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>TRACKS Suggestion List.... (maybe someplace we haven't been for
awhile
> > or
> >> >>ever...)
> >> >>
> >> >>1) Denver, CO - Would be nice. See the Shelby Museum too!
> >> >>
> >> >>2)
> >> >>
> >> >>3)
> >> >>
> >> >>4)
> >> >>
> >> >>5)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>You guys name it...
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks, Jim Elsmore
> >> >>
> >> >>'66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car!
> >> >>'66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer
> >> >>'67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process
> >> >>
> >> >>visit www.nvsaac.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
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I also recommended VIR when it first opened. My reply was the same. Lack
of convention sized hotel. But if they can hold convention in Dearborn and
track event at Mid-Ohio and make it work, Washington DC is that close. So
I am sure there will be some distance between the hotel and the track.
Greensboro sounds like it will probably be the hotel center.

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, STAN SIMM wrote:

> Jim and all-I recommended VIR to Kopec a couple of years ago and those were
> his exact objections. I wonder what he's done to overcome them? There is
> no one hotel in Danville, VA big enuf to handle it. Closest is the
> Sheraton-Koury Center in Greensboro, about 1 hr. away. The BMW CCA is
> holding their OKTOBERFEST there this Sept. w/3 days of driving schools and
> autocross at VIR, Concours at the Grandover Resort in Greensboro but all
> other social events at the Sheraton.
> Regards, Stan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts@msn.com>
> To: <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>; <info@nvsaac.com>;
> <ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>
>
>> Last time they were at Road America they were too cheap to rent the
> entire
>> facilty and it was a disaster. (Funny that the local Northwoods region
> seems
>> to be able to afford that!) They had the car show and the parts swap
> buried
>> so far in the back acreage in an area Id never been and Ive been going
>> there since 1963. That was the year they had the banquet at the track and
>> the Thunderstorm blew the tent away. Theres a problem because they want a
>> large central hotel facility so they can sell the $35 chicken dinners and
>> get a bunch of rooms comped. Its a business and it doesnt make any sense
> to
>> not make money.
>>
>> A denver convention makes total sense, theyve never been anywhere near
>> there, the Museum is right there and theres a dragstrip and road race
> track
>> that can be rented for next to nothing. Hotels are everywhere. Other than
>> the fact that you have to drive 500 while looking at nothing but corn
> fields
>> it would make a great convention in my humble opinion
>>
>>> From: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>>> Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>>> To: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>,<ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>>> Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0500
>>>
>>> How about Road America?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>
>>> To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:58 PM
>>> Subject: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>> I'm glad that my mind wasn't slipping... RE: SAAC 32
>>>>
>>>> Where do you guys want to go?
>>>> Maybe we can give a suggestion list to SAAC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TRACKS Suggestion List.... (maybe someplace we haven't been for awhile
> or
>>>> ever...)
>>>>
>>>> 1) Denver, CO - Would be nice. See the Shelby Museum too!
>>>>
>>>> 2)
>>>>
>>>> 3)
>>>>
>>>> 4)
>>>>
>>>> 5)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You guys name it...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Jim Elsmore
>>>>
>>>> '66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car!
>>>> '66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer
>>>> '67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process
>>>>
>>>> visit www.nvsaac.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Ronald Robertson wrote:

> Stan:
> Interesting that Kopec finds a 1 hour drive too far for hotel to track. It
> seems to me that Lime Rock, in Rick's backyard, is about an hour's drive as
> well.
> Ron

It was actually over 2 hours.

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Jim -

You are dreaming - SAAC DOES NOT support the museum AT ALL so that would nix
Denver

SGB



----- Original Message -----
From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts@msn.com>
To: <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>; <info@nvsaac.com>;
<ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?


> Last time they were at Road America they were too cheap to rent the
> entire facilty and it was a disaster. (Funny that the local Northwoods
> region seems to be able to afford that!) They had the car show and the
> parts swap buried so far in the back acreage in an area Id never been and
> Ive been going there since 1963. That was the year they had the banquet at
> the track and the Thunderstorm blew the tent away. Theres a problem
> because they want a large central hotel facility so they can sell the $35
> chicken dinners and get a bunch of rooms comped. Its a business and it
> doesnt make any sense to not make money.
>
> A denver convention makes total sense, theyve never been anywhere near
> there, the Museum is right there and theres a dragstrip and road race
> track that can be rented for next to nothing. Hotels are everywhere. Other
> than the fact that you have to drive 500 while looking at nothing but corn
> fields it would make a great convention in my humble opinion
>
>>From: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>>Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin@colinsclassicauto.com>
>>To: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>,<ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>>Subject: Re: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0500
>>
>>How about Road America?
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com>
>>To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:58 PM
>>Subject: SAAC 32 - Where do you want it to be held?
>>
>>
>>>Mike,
>>>I'm glad that my mind wasn't slipping... RE: SAAC 32
>>>
>>>Where do you guys want to go?
>>>Maybe we can give a suggestion list to SAAC
>>>
>>>
>>>TRACKS Suggestion List.... (maybe someplace we haven't been for awhile or
>>>ever...)
>>>
>>>1) Denver, CO - Would be nice. See the Shelby Museum too!
>>>
>>>2)
>>>
>>>3)
>>>
>>>4)
>>>
>>>5)
>>>
>>>
>>>You guys name it...
>>>
>>>Thanks, Jim Elsmore
>>>
>>>'66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car!
>>>'66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer
>>>'67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process
>>>
>>>visit www.nvsaac.com
>>>
>>>
>
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