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67 shelby tail light mounting issues

Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by ironhorse33, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. ironhorse33

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    am trying to mount the metal covers in the trunk that cover the lights and have no studs to mount them on? could i have early t-bird lights that werent equipped that way?...lenses are '64. also have huge gap around filler neck and rear panel seems not very water tight...are there supposed to be gaskets that go in there?
     
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    '67 tail lights are esentially '67 Cougar units with different bezels (there are other diferences). '68s used the '65 T-bird units. There are no gaskets other that those that seal the lens to the die cast light assembly.
     
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    "Metal cover in the trunk". I think you are describing the metal inner tail light mounts - AKA "boxes". They're pop riveted to the inside of the Fomoco factory tail light panel. A technician cut the panel out in a rectangular shape so the cougar tail light inner reflector assembly could be mounted through the boxes with studs. It is an involved process and yes, requires some other work to seal the fiberglass outer panel so fumes don't come into the car.

    Rather than explain the process, do a search for "67 tail light mounting" as I recall not too long ago this was gone over.
     
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    looked for the tail light posts...couldnt find info on my problem....no studs sticking out from tail lights to mount box's to...and 1/2" between gas filler neck and shelby fibreglass cover..seems excessive...i could float fish in the trunk if i wash it.....has anyone seen the foam seal set for sale on the internet..just wondering if that was supposed to be there...thanks jim
     
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    Can you post pictures so we can see what you're dealing with?
     
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    67's are crude,but like stated ,the inner boxes are rivited to the stock tail panel and the tail light bolt to those.If you need pictures,let me know and I can take some for you.
    Greg
     
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    I don't mean to offend but this is a real Shelby and not a clone, correct? The reason I ask is that the Cougar relectors are mounted with studs, and you mentioned "1964" so it sounds like some wrong parts are there.

    The is a 67 Shelby assembly manual I beleive would help you. Tony D Branda sells it. You can do a Google search for his address and phone number.

    Rather than foam, Shelby used silicone on some models and strip caulk on others, depending on their production date.
     
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    #2459...i took some pics and you can see there are no studs...or a place for the studs...there are pics of the space around the filler neck...you can see in one of the pics my pinky finger from the outside...and there is a pic of the lenses also...let me know what you think...maybe i have t-bird housings?
     

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    Uh-Oh. Wrong lights. You have '64 T-Bird taillights. You need to find the '67-68 Cougar assemblies. They will have the bosses to mount the studs.
     
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    It looks like you also have a 68 tail panel to go with your 68 tail light buckets.Bob
     
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    Which brings up the next question. It the amount of metal in the rear panel that needs to be removed for '68 style tail lights more than for '67 tail lights?
     
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    The answer is no,the Thunderbird lights go over the panel,as the Cougar lights go into the panel.
     
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    have been busy and havent checked the forum for replies...thought they would show up in my email...ooops .hey bob..whats the thought on my rear panel being 68 rather than 67? didnt knoe there was a difference..maybe thats why i have so much daylight around the gas filler
     
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    Also: there seems to be no tail light "boxes" in the photos.
     
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    HMMMMMMM . I didn't remember it was you that had that issue before. Logically it should be the same as the tailpanel is the basic same surface. This is a excellent opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.While you are changing out the tailpanel you can better seal the drafts you have while making the change. You can think of it as taking a lemon and making lemonade! The best of luck with your upcoming needed change. No pressure:lol: .
     
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    thanks for the reply...the shape seems to be correct but the hole aroung the gas door doesnt fit tight against the body...its like 1/4 inch away....the original design and execution makes my old hemi dart look a mercedes. oh well thats why we love working on these old girls. thanks for the help all who replied...baby steps..next is getting the spool out of the 9 inch...not the best for parallel parking.
     
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    Hi, do you have pics of the shelby fiberglass taillight panel and where it mounts at the top lip of the metal original taillight panel... I have the early taillight panel and I think per your pics your car does too... could you send a few pics of the fiberglass panel from the gas cap side to see how it lays on top of the metal?

    thansk,
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    Brian ,you can tell from the backside pictures that the tail panel is not a early or later 67 Shelby original tailpanel . Sorry. Bob
     
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    hi there, sorry missed the first email awhile ago, finally have time to reply had issues getting at the car through the winter, the original 67 shape of the sheet metal around the gas filler curves inward. whereas the shelby filler panel is not as curved and has about a 1/4 inch space around the filler neck...its like you took a flat panel and cut the shape of the gas door and went 1/4 inch wider so there is no seal around the chrome piece itself.
     

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