Jon, Jim, and all...... I have been reading the posts and I can tell you that I have been to many/all of the SAAC conventions, over the past 16 years, and I do agree with Jim that they have changed. Obviously the climbing values of the cars play a big part in that. However, what also needs to be realized is, that aside from the Concours car show, the open track event is the only other money generating event for SAAC, whereas the popular vote car show is not. Kenny