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Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by BLU SHLB, Jul 11, 2005.

  1. BLU SHLB

    BLU SHLB Active Member

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    OK Guys, here's my naive questions for the day....How the hell could I ever own an original (not even restored, but at least original) 1965 or '66 GT 350 or a 1967 GT 500 at their current prices? :mad:
    Let me back up. Back in 1984, I was in Los Angeles with my parents for the weekend. We we going to go to Disneyland.
    That same evening, across the street, I saw (heard) a bunch of cars pulling into the Best Western Hotel's parking lot.
    The next moring, it was a sea of Shelbys and Cobras. I assume it was SAAC 9. What a sight! :thumbsup: Forget Mickey Mouse, I spent the whole day looking at these beautiful cars. Later My Dad joined me and we met a gentleman from TX, wanting to sell his GT500KR from $13000. Well at the time, I was 17 yrs old and couldn't afford it. My dad didn't think it was a good idea to spent THAT MUCH MONEY on an "Old Car" :doh:
    So I fast forward to present year 2005, and hear that Ford is coming out with the 2nd generation GT 500. My love affair for the shelby badge is reborn. But, in the back of my mind is the need for the classic shelby mustangs, which have now gone through the roof in pricing.
    I know this may seem like "sour grapes" from a Newbie, but I really would like to know from you "oldtimers" how can someone who doesn't currently own a classic shelby possibly buy one today, if you're not the C.E.O. of a fortune 500 company? :blink:
    BTW the term "oldtimers" as I am using it, has nothing to do with your age, but more how long ago did you buy your current shelby.
    Did I miss my chance as a commoner to own a piece of American History!? :eek:
    Am I getting screwed in pricing because I live in CA and the prices for these Shelbys are half everywhere else in the U.S.!? (Please see housing prices in the Bay Area to really appreciate that comment)
    Could anyone out there please point me in the direction of the "Secret Place" or website (if it exists) where you Shelby guys buy and sell your cars for normal prices?

    PLEASE HELP! I will never feel that I own a true SHELBY even when (not if) I buy the 2007 GT 500. :noway:
     
  2. KenG.

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    I don't think it is going to happen buddy. Set you eyes on the new GT500 or a nice clone. For now, the prices are quite strong. If you are persistant, look for either 66,67,68 GT350's for I think these are the most reasonable of the bunch as far as price. IMO.
     
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    rshelby ShelbyForums Admin Staff Member

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    I'm afraid the current prices are the "normal prices" these days and they're too steep for me but at least they are not as expensive as a buying a house in the bay area. ^_^
     
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    Yeah, tell me about it. I am either getting raked over the coals for my love of SHELBY or my love of SHELTER! :wacko:
    But I'm curious to know are the '66-'68 GT 350s less desirable that the '65? Is it because of production #s for the '65 vs. the others? Remeber, I'm a NEWBIE! :dance:
     
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    Yes, Mostly because of production numbers. The price of 65's is closer to the price of the 67/68 GT500's were as the 66-68's are about half the price or there abouts.
     
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    If I had to go out and buy my 67 GT 350 today, (I bought it in 1971) I'd have to sell my house and live in the car.

    Most of us who already have one, still would like to buy another.

    BUT, never say never.
     
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    Newbie, hang in there. I was where you were in 1989 when Shelby pricing started spiking. 1965-66 Shelbys were the Hot Ticket. 67-70 GT 500's Fastbacks where about half the price. Convertible big blocks were close to 80-90K. Then the market had a slight correction and prices actually came down to where you could get 1966 models in the mid forties and 67-70 prices where still reachable in the high 20's - mid 30's. I bought my KR for 22K in 1990 and my 67 GT-350 for 7.5K in 1991. Of course the 67 required a total restoration at the tune of ~ 20K but hey it was all there. You may be able to get a restorable small block car in the 20's and put about 20-30K (conservative) in it before you have a drivable automobile. Have you joined SAAC. They publish a Snakebite newsletter every other month with Shelbys for sale. There might be something that is reasonable that may be in your price range. With these cars, you have to have the money ready to go when an opportunuity arises. The alternative is wait on the new models or set aside enough money to purchase a restoarable car and finance the restoration. Before you guys flame me, I know a couple of 427 Cobra guys who did actually did this. Laugh all the way to the bank when they sold them :doh: . Anything you set your mind to is achiveable. It is only how much persistence you have to get there.

    Doc :rolleyes:
     
  8. KenG.

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    Keep in mind also, there are a lot of scams out there too. Be diligent and do you home work. If a price seems too good to be true, it probably is. There are plenty of resources out there to help you out.
     
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    Are you hung-up on owning a Mustang? 86-87 GLH-S and 87-89 CSX are very affordable. And they are real Shelby's to boot!

    robin
     
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    Yeah, I am kinda hung up on owning a SHELBY Mustang. It's been a car that I've wanted to have since my first encounter with one in '84.
    I do appreciate the suggestions that everyone has offered. I will definitely join the SAAC and check out "Snakebite's" Classified section.
    Who knows, maybe I'll find my very own SHELBY! :thumbsup:

    I did want to clairfy something that was mentioned. Where do I go to get information for verifying that a SHELBY that I may come across is actually a REAL SHELBY and not an imposter? :unsure:
    I've read the threads that you guys have posted when a SHELBY goes up on eBay, and sure enough, you can pick it apart, pointing out the incorrect parts of the car.
    I'd like to get a correct car, (as much as possible) or at least know how much "correcting" I will have to do, should I decide to buy it.
    Any sources of information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :D
     
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    rshelby ShelbyForums Admin Staff Member

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    In this thread Jim Elsmore recommended Shelby Vehicle Certification by the folks at this website.
    There are about 12 certifiers around the country.

    Also, I would recommend once again looking in SAAC newsletter.
     
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    Want some advice? Keep your EYES open, and your MOUTH shut. Ask, Look and listen. Investigate every lead, no matter how small. There are still a number of unaccounted for cars out there and deals to be had. I know this for a fact. About 30 years ago, I absolutely fell into a deal and bought a crashed Cobra for $1500.00.

    These things will only come from ‘out of the way’ places. Ad’s in the classifieds, word of mouth, someone who is a friend of a friend. A guy traveling through a small town in Montana inquires at a gas station if anyone has any Mustangs they might want to sell. Ends up buying a GT-500. If you look long enough, you will find something. It may not even be a Shelby product but something you can turn into $.

    Drive around neighborhoods and look. Do scouting trips in other towns. For about ten years, there was a 70 Mustang shell buried under a bunch of trash in the backyard of local house in the run down section of town. I must have seen that car a hundred times. A guy I know stopped one day and knocked on the door of the house and offered to buy the car. Like I said it was a shell, just the body with the doors and little else. He bought it for $300.00. The VIN number started with KK – it was a Boss 429! Gave him a start that ultimately made him multiple thousands of dollars. Hang in there, never give up.
    Good Luck
     
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    You already have some good advice .... 1. Join SAAC. 2. Purchase a copy of the Shelby Registry and read each section on the Shelbys you want. 3. Put together the money you are going to spend on that 2006 / 2007 GT500 in one bank account; $40K (add $10K if you can). 4. Persist in your search. 5. When you find a potential Shelby, act immediately. If your not the first guy, the first guy is going to buy a "good" car. When your first, and the Shelby checks out, do not hesistate. The second guy will take the car. Does this work? I have several almost Shelby stories from my pursuits, but I also have three 1968 Shelby Mustangs in my garage. The first one bought in 1999 and the third bought in January of this year. If I am doing my math correctly (Age=17 in 1984 means age=38 in 2005), I do not believe I qualify as an old timer given I am only 2 years your senior. Good luck!
     
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    My search for a 67 Shelby took approximately four years - know going in that your search will take time to find an authentic car for a reasonable price. During my search, I missed out on at least a half dozen cars for multiple reasons such as being out bid, seller backs out, car not in condition as represented (happened twice), seller actually not the owner, and being the "2nd" caller. Understand it's expected that these things may happen given the popularity of these cars and potential profit people may try to gain. Your best protection is knowledge and the experience of others that are available to help. I followed much of the suggestions posted here - again it's essential to know everything possible about the year of Shelby you decide to pursue. Once you have found a car and completed your due deligence (including a personal inpection and/or inspection by a Shelby expert), run the Ford VIN by the SAAC register to confirm it matches the Shelby VIN. I also asked SAAC register for any additional information on the car not listed in the register.

    Unfortunately, we as buyers cannot control prices, but you can control the amount of effort put into finding a car which creates greater opportunities to locate a good car for a reasonable price. Good luck and keep asking questions.
     
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    Hang in there and be patient. Here's my humble $.02:

    I personally don't think that the current muscle car market will sustain itself. There have been two price spikes with these cars in the last two decades (late 80's and '00-current). After awhile, they'll come back down a bit. Maybe not much, but I don't think that in 5 years you'll see nearly as many Shelby's fetching $100K+ unless it's an R-model or other extremely rare edition (like the original Super Snake).

    In addition, by producing Eleanors and other "new" Shelby's, the jokers down at Unique Performance are only helping to soften the market for the originals. So the more cars they produce to satisfy demand, the less demand there will be for the REAL Shelby's, thus causing the price of originals to come down.
    It's just a shame that so many perfectly good Mustangs have to be wasted doing it.
     
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    I hear you with regards to the Eleanors but they suffer the same stigma has the Continuation Cobras. Part of the Family that will always get the cold shoulder from the original clan. At least the Continuation Cobras are built from the ground up as a Shelby and not a carcass mustang. It's hard to sit back and watch these cars sell for more than the the originals. I guess all the extra stuff and Shelby endorsement is worth the price tag.

    Doc
     
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    Well, I should update all of you who were kind enough to reply to my post. I came across a '69 GT350 and bought it. ^_^ It was not restored, but looked complete.
    I found it in a community bulletin board posting, and replied immediately. I had a guy from a local Shelby club go an inspect it for me, as I ran the #s throught the SAAC registar for 1969 Shelbys.
    Turns out it was part of the Hertz Rent-A-Racer program, and came with "selectaire" all #s matched and never wrecked nor had any rust, as it was a CA car most it's life.
    It may not have been my first choice, but I am pretty happy with my purchase.
    Funny thing is, everyone who's into Shelbys or works on them has a different opinion about it's price.
    Some say it was a steal, others say that it should have been a concours car for the amount.
    So what do you guys think a fair price would be for this: My First SHELBY
     
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    Congratulations. If you are happy, it doesn't matter what you paid for it.

    Doc
     
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    Boy that was fast! I agree with Doc, don't worry about he price just enjoy the car :guitar:
     
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    Thanks Doc. You're right. It's just nice to know that you didn't get "taken for a ride" (no pun intended) when getting into a hobby that you're new at.
     

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