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Can the 2011 do 0-60 in 3.9s??

Discussion in '2nd Generation Shelby Mustangs' started by quorum, May 4, 2010.

  1. rsimkins

    rsimkins Well-Known Member

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    Should be "Unless you're still in the Marine Corp.."

    Should be "they're".

    Now you've been helped with your "grammar".
     
  2. JRMSR

    JRMSR Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes:Yea an I spose yer a gammer expert too! Must be more dat Jirine edmucation at work!:laf::doh: You know what an expert is? It's a has been drip under pressure!

    If you don't like it rsimkins, you can pack it where the sun doesn't shine and dive in for a look!! How's that for some grammer civilian:whistle::cigar:?? If you had a clue you'd know this kid is a LURKER, 4 posts and claims he's got a Shelby Cobra, and he was in the Marine Corp! Yea, and I'm f@cking George Washington! Can we say clueless!:rolleyes::whistle:
     
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    rsimkins Well-Known Member

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    JRMSR,

    Just trying to point out that you were making the same mistake that you were accusing someone else of making. I say, give the other guy a break and back off with the attitude. This is a great forum where everybody is welcome and is treated with respect. So let's keep it civil. You seem to have quite a bit of technical knowledge and experience as evidenced in your previous posts, you're welcome to share it. But keep the personal attacks to yourself. And that's all I'm going to say on that subject.

    As for being an expert, if writing professionally for a living counts as being an expert, then I suppose I am.
     
  4. JRMSR

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    What you've failed to realize is I despise liars of a certain kind, especially those that bring dishonor to my living and fallen comrades in arms. Especially those that falsely acclaim direct association. After serving 20+ years and three conflicts as a U.S. serviceman, I won't allow some charlatan the latitude of utilizing such claims, especially when I'm assured it's a complete falsehood. As for having a little verbal, grammatical latitude and jocularity with my remarks, they were allocated on his behalf, not your's. It was done as a purposeful repost to incite some additional retort on his part and to further expose his fictitious claims. Of course, this was his initial intent. So I obliged with a satirical comment.:whistle:

    As a writer you should be able discern between the satirical and truthful, especially with intent. Don't believe a person is the lesser when they can transform their literary vernacular to meet the occasion.;) Civility is only measured by it's factuality and is transient with a liar.

    I realized he was here for singular purpose but I won't allow him to defame the fine Marine Corp name. Nor am I as naive to believe his financial resources would facilitate the procurement of a vintage automobile or the latitude of purchasing an expensive alternative through a system which doesn't permit, unless he was actively stationed abroad in the service of this country.

    Your evolvement and comments were misplaced without the appropriate viewpoint, wisdom or reasoning to see through his comments. Sometimes it's necessary to expose false claims in order to put a proper perspective on a discussion. In this case it was necessary. So in repose, see my comments as a necessary evil and discard your personal involvement in a effort to remove any validity to his impromptu comments. I hope I've expressed myself with the appropriate candor and eloquence on your behalf or would you bid me digression to a more satirical explanation?;)

    Cheers

    Jeff:laf:
     
  5. rshelby

    rshelby ShelbyForums Admin Staff Member

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    Now that we all agree to move beyond the personal banter, I have a few lines to quote from the Motor Trend magazine article referring to the 0-60 times of the 2011 GT500.

    By the way, Jeff (JRMSR), is it inappropriate that I envision R. Lee Ermey talking when I read your posts? :laf:

    Here is a link to the article

    Re-Test: 2011 Ford Shelby GT500
    Getting the New Shelby Mustang on Our Own Turf and Our Own Terms, in Search of (and Finding) that final Tenth!

    "Gotta be better numbers in that car! Gotta be!" That's what we all said when intrepid road tripper Carlos Lago reported his results of the "GT500 Quadrathalon". We're never sure of test results obtained on the road. We don't know a lot about the tester the carmaker sent us away with. Are the tires fresh, or have they been heat-cycled 100 times, and getting old, hard, and slow? Was the car broken in properly or at the hands of a bunch of mad journos attacking a racetrack for the first time? Even though Carlos is a solid, consistent tester, we wanted another crack at the new 2011 Ford Shelby GT500 Mustang on our own test track, using our regular gear, etc. So we did it. And found a pinch and an inch here and there, but nothing overwhelming.

    In summary, MT resident road tester and hot-shoe Scott Mortara got the 0-60 down to 4.1 seconds and peeled off consistent quarter-mile runs of 12.35 seconds at 115.75 mph. Grip? Yeah, we got grip. The new tires really are better: 1.01g average on the skid. Braking virtually identical at around 103 feet from 60 mph. With slicks, this 3800-pound musclemaker would run well under four seconds to 60. All friggidy day.

    So we hope we've settled the weight question in your mind: We seldom carry our scales with us on the road, but this car, with a full tank of gas, tipped the Toledo at 3801, 57 percent of it over the nose, the rest (43 percent) aft.

    Shouldn't a weight loss of 100 or so pounds, plus more torque and more horsepower, equal a bigger differentiation over all the previous GT500s we've tested. Yes, you'd think, that is if we could get the power to the ground. The new tires are better, but when dancing on the acceleration edge, there's a fine line between bogging and mega rear-tire smoke.

    No matter, Ford said the new one would be faster than the old, and it is. And it's so much more consistent and sophisticated feeling than before. The ride is firm and responsive to be sure. And the front end bites so much harder and hangs in there longer, than any Camaro. And just save your "old-fashioned, unsophisticated live rear axle" arguments for someone else; SVT and the Shelby folks have got this thing pinned down nice. Even on crummy pavement. There's a bit of a ride penalty, as compared with previous 18-inch wheel/tire-equipped cars, but the gain in responsiveness with these new 19s is worth it. And they look great.
     
  6. JRMSR

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    Gunny, why thank you!:cigar:
     
  7. JRMSR

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    There are better numbers in it. It's a matter of weight transfer and being able to put the horsepower to the ground. Mustang is heavier and carries more weight over the front axle. Weight transfer is not that good. To combat it, less air pressure in the tires, lower take off rpm's and make good shifts at appropriate intervals.

    Did you happen to read the articles in both Mustang Mags on the new 5.0" Same magic was used on the 5.0 GT to run 12.39 quarter with the left front of the ground at the lights. Now remember this is a 5.0 412 hp at the crank more or less 356 RWHP. So yes there is quite a bit more to be had in the GT500. Less weight better transfer and viola'!

    Cheers

    Jeffafa
     
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    Cobra Boy must have gotten a rare Caddy. My dad had a Cadillac Escalade and for starters it is nothing more than an overpriced glorified Denali. Dads first Brand X in 30 years and boy was it junk. They had to have the stereo replaced twice, had problems with some trim falling off and finally traded it at 60,000 miles because the tranny was going out of it. That vehicle was never abused either, dad was meticulous about his vehicles and their maintenance. I never let him live it down...he raised me a die hard Ford fanatic and then pulled that stupid stunt! LOL And for the record did anyone read the article about millionaires recently? The vehicle most owned by millionaires is Ford. Not Caddy, Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes.. The answer most given in the survey is because they hold their value better. You don't become a millionaire by spending foolishly. Just my two cents worth.... you are entitled to your opinion Cobra Boy, just as I am to mine but maybe you should go to a Caddy forum if you wanna bitch about Fords.
     
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