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Tearing apart your Shelby GT500

Discussion in '2nd Generation Shelby Mustangs' started by DS1516pb, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. DS1516pb

    DS1516pb Banned

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    I am due to have the upgraded 2010 clutch assembly put in my Shelby. But I don't know why it bothers me they have to tear my car apart and is practically new.

    The clutch technician is supposed to be really good but it bothers me I paid big money for this car and I begin to question why especially when it doesn't seem like anyone EXCEPT for the owner is standing behind their car. i.e. paying out of pocket for a defective wear item.

    I just wonder if maybe it's time to give some of the other car manufacturers a chance that make a really nice sports car some may call them a (ricer).

    And I wonder about the enjoyment factor of what you own. You have the pride of ownership and then the enjoyment factor.

    I feel a loss of both with my Shelby so I am really not sure what I am going to do right now.

    It is just frustrating that I stand behind a product my car more than the people that built it. And I'm supposed to feel like a proud owner in my own mind I guess.

    I just don't know.

    Regards

    Dan
     
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    rshelby ShelbyForums Admin Staff Member

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    If you are considering selling your Ford and purchasing a Japanese car, are you really standing by the car like you say you are?

    If they are fixing it for you, I think it is about time to take a deep breath and move on. Quit worrying about the clutch. If it does bother you that much then go ahead and sell it and buy something else. Why don't you get one of those Toyotas that accelerates without warning?
     
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    zrayr Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like you have buyers remorse, with a little whining on top. Should you be happy that your car has a clutch issue ? No of course not. But realize that you have a HIGH PERFORMANCE machine. Things break. Fix it and move on.

    If you are soured on Shelby's get a Ferrari, and let us know how you like like that $ 5,000.00 tune up bill.


    Z.
     
  4. vernonestes

    vernonestes Well-Known Member

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    Haha, for a cheap Ferrari, i heard the top of the line enzo is 20K :p

    And yes, this is an enthusiast forum, y not try and muster a bit of enthusiasm? If you dont have any, sell the car and buy a Civic with a big ricer wing and a hole in the muffler..mm fun

    Best,
    Vern
     
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    The only vehicle I have ever driven has pretty much been a mustang and this makes my 6th one. What I thought was my best one I'm just not so sure now.

    I didn't expect all this when I left the showroom at Ford's Regional Headquarters in Fort Wayne Indiana. Dimension Ford. First off I live in West Virginia and drove 8 hours to purchase the car and 8 hours back. Very tiring I wanted my Shelby.

    Then after the finance manager at Dimension Ford assured me all the taxes title and tag transfer work would be taken care of sent me out of there on temporary plates. Two weeks later I get a certified letter with the title work and a receipt from Indiana an ST-108 for Indiana taxes collected that my state did not except.

    It was up to me to take care of taxes title and tag transfer fees to my state. So I got double dinged on the state taxes on the car and I think the finance manager at Dimension Ford in Fort Wayne Indiana got fired for not sending the money into my state department of motor vehicles because he is not there anymore.

    Instead he collected all of Indiana's sales tax and then had the title department mail all the paper work to me certified to pay it twice. Including title and tag transfer fees.

    Complaints to Dimension Ford and The Indiana Department of Revenue and the Indiana Department of Motor Vehicles and even The Indiana Attorney General did not get any funds back to me. I also filed the same complaints in my state.

    The only letters I got were one from my state that says they did not have to collect them unless they planned on forwarding them to my state. And that West Virginia does not have a reciprocity agreement for the ST-108 on vehicle taxes paid in Indiana. And that Indiana could have either sent the money into my state with the title work or not charged me and let me pay them here.

    The other letter from Indiana I got from them twice said the same thing twice.

    It said that I could file a claim to Indiana to get any difference I paid twice in my state back which I did file. And the letter I got from Indiana twice said there was also no law that required them to give me any money back. lol (not funny really) Unless I were you.

    I called up there last week to let him the finance manager know what I thought about the 12/12 on the defective clutch disk and extended warranty he said covered everything. He already knew what I thought about the vehicle tax after purchase. But he doesn't work there. I asked for his boss or anyone in charge and the nice lady I talked too assured I would get a call back that day. And that was last week. No call.

    All I'm saying is I have always loved my mustangs and invested and driven them.

    And I guess I just expected more out of Ford and my 2007 Shelby is all. That's all I am saying. I do not regret buying my car and do not regret if I have the clutch put in it.

    I just expected more from Ford SVT and Shelby. Is that so much to expect from a grown company on this particular car this day and age?

    Regards

    Dan
     
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    99% of your last post is aggravation at the way the dealer and DMV treated you. And you are probably entirely justified for feeling wronged. But all that is not the Fords or Shelbys fault. Somehow in your mind you will have to separate the clutch issue from all the other baggage that causes you to have negative feelings about the car.

    Could Ford or Shelby responded better when the '07 clutch issue surfaced ? Sure. Is that cause for being soured on the car. No. Get it fixed & start enjoying it. If that doesn't erase your malaise then you should sell the car. No point in having it if there's no satisfaction

    Z.
     
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    rshelby ShelbyForums Admin Staff Member

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    Dan,
    That is definitely a rough way to start ownership of your new Shelby. Sounds like very poor customer service from the dealership.
    Randall
     
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    Also, you must realize that Shelby has nothing to do with your car other than a badging royalty so you really shouldnt be pinning this on Shelby. The car was designed solely by SVT and Ford, the name is where the involvement of shelby ceases.

    Best,
    Vern
     
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    rshelby ShelbyForums Admin Staff Member

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    Ahhh, but Vern, you are overlooking the role of inspiration and marketing...both provided by Shelby. :p
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    You have to give the man his due. He has always stated that he merely finds the best person for the job and lets them go at it. Ford recognized long ago Shelby's talents were "inspiration and marketing" and they both enjoyed success when he was allowed free rein to do his stuff. That recognition is the basis for the new Shelby/ Ford partnership.

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    Im not at all diminishing Shelby Automobiles, im just saying that warranty issues having to do with late model GT500s have nothing to do with Shelby Automobiles and it is not their responsibility. I think that late model GT500s are great, im just saying they arent touched by the Las Vegas factory so the buck doesnt go to them. It was the same with 68s-70s, they are no less "shelby" than anything from princeton or the airport.

    Best,
    Vern
     
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    I don't think the clutches were upgraded on the Super Snake package? So they have the same clutch I have now?

    I don't remember seeing anyone selling Super Snake program take off parts with old clutches like are in my 2007 Shelby GT500.

    It will be interesting to see what happens to the clutches in the older Super Snakes that have the defect.

    Do you think Carroll Shelby cares anything about or has anything to do with those clutches in the Super Snakes?

    Regards

    Dan
     
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    vernonestes Well-Known Member

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    Your car is not a super snake. And if it was, the clutch issue would only be handled, just as yours is being handled, if the car was the 605 ford racing whipple. If it was the 725 horse Kenne Bell version, the power train warranty is surrendered upon install. Futher, the power train is reduced to 1 year with the whipple so it would be out by now.

    Best,
    Vern
     
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    I do not recall saying my car was a super snake. I am pretty certain I have said many times my car is a Shelby GT500.

    My question was about if Carroll Shelby would have anything to do with the defective clutches left in the super snake upgrades.

    And gauging from your response it sounds like him nor his facility would not and the responsible parties for the defective parts still fall on Ford and the vehicles owner.

    I did figure the extra modifications on the super snakes would exacerbate the defective clutch problems.

    My car is not a super snake. My car is a Shelby GT500.

    Regards

    Dan

     
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    We are all aware your car is not a super snake, i responded in that manner because you posing the question of SAI's responsibility with defective clutches in Super Snakes was completely off topic and posses no relevance in this thread. You have my response in my above post.

    Im done posting on this thread, this thread reminds me of why i picked my girl to be honest. shes not dramatic, i hate drama. Just get it fixed and move on, the constant fanning of the flames on this thread isnt going to get your car fixed. And if you dont want the car then just sell it.

    Best Regards,
    Vern
     
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    DS1516pb Banned

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    That is like I was well aware of the intentions of your post. And to me anything in this thread that pertains to the same defective clutch in my 2007 Shelby GT500 is on topic.

    This thread discusses that same defective clutch regardless which mustang it is in and that establishes a common thread between them all.

    And yes I will make up my own mind to keep my 2007 Shelby GT500 and have the defective clutch upgraded with the replacement or sale my mustang.

    I always appreciate everyone and all their input regardless their opinion on the issue. But whatever happens with my car I will try to lavish in my decision.

    Regards

    Dan

     
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    Well the dealer just told me the clutch parts are on back order until 10/8. I believe someone else on another thread said something about a 30 day back order. He said this was due to a problem with Ford's supplier in Taiwan not able to meet quota for the part. I do not think it is the entire assembly as I was told the dealer had "most of the parts". He did not elaborate. He said Ford's new supplier UAB United Arab Emirates will have the parts in by 10/8. The dealer also said the original shipment date of 9/15 changed in his computer yesterday to 10/8. So this is the newest shipment date. He said he would call me when they came in so I could get the clutch assembly replaced with the 2010 modular assembly.

    Regards

    Dan
     
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    You have options. You can contact by email the Head of U.S Marketing and Sales at Ford. That might give you edge.
     

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