The popping out of gear thing is caused by the aluminum cases expanding, this the the reasoning from 1970's. I just learned to drive with one hand on the wheel and one on the shifter. Hey, you steer a 65 with the throttle anyway. I had mine rebuilt and it only lasted a year autocrossing every weekend. Best move I ever made was putting a cast iron close ratio top loader in the car. Kept the original, however, and it was with the car when I sold it. > > From: jonlee@wt.net > Date: 2005/07/29 Fri PM 11:41:26 EDT > To: Shelby List <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> > Subject: RE: 65 350 Tranny > > INteresting!! > > So can we say that this Aluminum T 10 was also used in 66 Shelbys or early 66 cars? > Thanks to Kenny Chrisman and Bob who have early 66 Shelby cars, they too carry the same transmission that a 65 Shelby would have. > > Thanks for your input guys!!! Learned something new today!!! > > > OH...by the way.. I have heard from numerous sources that the Tranny will pop out of 2nd gear but I have not experienced that yet. Howard Pardee , however, did state that the reason the gears pop > out or wear out fast is because the gears itself stop the stifter lever rather than like a Hurst shifter with a positive stop bolt. > > I guess this means no more banging the gears for races - ha > > > > jon > > > > > Jon, > > I don't have any data on the numbers but I have 6S 030 and have had it since 4/11/69 and it has the same aluminum MT10 trans. I think all the 65s had them, not sure if they changed later in 66. Back > in 1969 it would come out of second gear when deaccelerating at a specific rpm and vibrate at about 70 mph. Had it tore down and checked by a supposed "expert" and he couldn't find out why. Went to a > Toploader (I still have everything I have taken off) from 1992-2003 then last year converted to a T-5. THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE besides store the original 289 and built a 68 302 into a 347 > stroker to play with. > > Kenny Chrismon > > > > > Quoting Ourb <ourb@comcast.net>: > > - Jon, > - I have the original tranny from 6s135 and it is the same light weight > - aluminum T-10. > - Bob > - > - -----Original Message----- > - From: jonlee@wt.net [mailto:jonlee@wt.net] > - Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:50 PM > - To: Shelby List > - Subject: 65 350 Tranny > - > - Hey ... > - > - > - Got some educational questions here. I pulled what I think is the original > - T10 tranny out of my 65 -350 to change the fly wheel and noticed some > - numbers. Does anyone know what they mean or used for? > - It is stamped on the main body driver side. > - > - > - I have you tell you guys/gals, this T 10 tranny is really light compared to > - the cast Iron toploaders that I have dealt with. When I pulled the tranny > - out, I took a chance and grabbed it before it > - fell to the floor off the jack. I was surprised that I caught it and it > - didnt rip my arms out - hahaha (not recommended). The tranny is freaking > - light and small. > - > - The other question is ," were these trannys specially made for the 65-350 > - Shelbys?" > - I did some research and could not find another car that used the aluminum > - T10 tranny. > - There is T10 M 1 casted into the body and T10 M7 in the aluminum tail > - housing. > - Very interesting > - > - Thanks > - > - jon > - > - > > > >
Im still trying to drive with one hand on wheel and other on stick. Its not easy with city driving. Have you tried driving these cars in cowboy boots? I almost died in my 65 car. The heels and the seat position makes it "almost" impossible to use heel/toe action on the clutch pedal. It can be done though. I "aint" driving with spurs on though. ha ha jon Quoting lmathias@bellsouth.net: - The popping out of gear thing is caused by the aluminum cases expanding, this the the reasoning from 1970's. I just learned to drive with one hand on the wheel and one on the shifter. Hey, you - steer a 65 with the throttle anyway. I had mine rebuilt and it only lasted a year autocrossing every weekend. Best move I ever made was putting a cast iron close ratio top loader in the car. - Kept the original, however, and it was with the car when I sold it. - > - > From: jonlee@wt.net - > Date: 2005/07/29 Fri PM 11:41:26 EDT - > To: Shelby List <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> - > Subject: RE: 65 350 Tranny - > - > INteresting!! - > - > So can we say that this Aluminum T 10 was also used in 66 Shelbys or early 66 cars? - > Thanks to Kenny Chrisman and Bob who have early 66 Shelby cars, they too carry the same transmission that a 65 Shelby would have. - > - > Thanks for your input guys!!! Learned something new today!!! - > - > - > OH...by the way.. I have heard from numerous sources that the Tranny will pop out of 2nd gear but I have not experienced that yet. Howard Pardee , however, did state that the reason the gears - pop - > out or wear out fast is because the gears itself stop the stifter lever rather than like a Hurst shifter with a positive stop bolt. - > - > I guess this means no more banging the gears for races - ha - > - > - > - > jon - > - > - > - > - > Jon, - > - > I don't have any data on the numbers but I have 6S 030 and have had it since 4/11/69 and it has the same aluminum MT10 trans. I think all the 65s had them, not sure if they changed later in 66. - Back - > in 1969 it would come out of second gear when deaccelerating at a specific rpm and vibrate at about 70 mph. Had it tore down and checked by a supposed "expert" and he couldn't find out why. Went - to a - > Toploader (I still have everything I have taken off) from 1992-2003 then last year converted to a T-5. THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE besides store the original 289 and built a 68 302 into a 347 - - > stroker to play with. - > - > Kenny Chrismon - > - > - > - > - > Quoting Ourb <ourb@comcast.net>: - > - > - Jon, - > - I have the original tranny from 6s135 and it is the same light weight - > - aluminum T-10. - > - Bob - > - - > - -----Original Message----- - > - From: jonlee@wt.net [mailto:jonlee@wt.net] - > - Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:50 PM - > - To: Shelby List - > - Subject: 65 350 Tranny - > - - > - Hey ... - > - - > - - > - Got some educational questions here. I pulled what I think is the original - > - T10 tranny out of my 65 -350 to change the fly wheel and noticed some - > - numbers. Does anyone know what they mean or used for? - > - It is stamped on the main body driver side. - > - - > - - > - I have you tell you guys/gals, this T 10 tranny is really light compared to - > - the cast Iron toploaders that I have dealt with. When I pulled the tranny - > - out, I took a chance and grabbed it before it - > - fell to the floor off the jack. I was surprised that I caught it and it - > - didnt rip my arms out - hahaha (not recommended). The tranny is freaking - > - light and small. - > - - > - The other question is ," were these trannys specially made for the 65-350 - > - Shelbys?" - > - I did some research and could not find another car that used the aluminum - > - T10 tranny. - > - There is T10 M 1 casted into the body and T10 M7 in the aluminum tail - > - housing. - > - Very interesting - > - - > - Thanks - > - - > - jon - > - - > - - > - > - > - > - -
I am a firm believer in using the right tool for the job: -Horse = Cowboy Boots -Car = Driving Shoes Oh yeah, and if you are seen driving in cowboy boots east of the Mississippi, it had better be to go pick up your horse! LOL Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: <jonlee@wt.net> To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: Re: RE: 65 350 Tranny > Im still trying to drive with one hand on wheel and other on stick. Its > not easy with city driving. > > Have you tried driving these cars in cowboy boots? I almost died in my 65 > car. The heels and the seat position makes it "almost" impossible to use > heel/toe action on the clutch pedal. It can be done > though. > > I "aint" driving with spurs on though. ha ha > > jon > > > Quoting lmathias@bellsouth.net: > > - The popping out of gear thing is caused by the aluminum cases expanding, > this the the reasoning from 1970's. I just learned to drive with one hand > on the wheel and one on the shifter. Hey, you > - steer a 65 with the throttle anyway. I had mine rebuilt and it only > lasted a year autocrossing every weekend. Best move I ever made was > putting a cast iron close ratio top loader in the car. > - Kept the original, however, and it was with the car when I sold it. > - > > - > From: jonlee@wt.net > - > Date: 2005/07/29 Fri PM 11:41:26 EDT > - > To: Shelby List <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> > - > Subject: RE: 65 350 Tranny > - > > - > INteresting!! > - > > - > So can we say that this Aluminum T 10 was also used in 66 Shelbys or > early 66 cars? > - > Thanks to Kenny Chrisman and Bob who have early 66 Shelby cars, they > too carry the same transmission that a 65 Shelby would have. > - > > - > Thanks for your input guys!!! Learned something new today!!! > - > > - > > - > OH...by the way.. I have heard from numerous sources that the Tranny > will pop out of 2nd gear but I have not experienced that yet. Howard > Pardee , however, did state that the reason the gears > - pop > - > out or wear out fast is because the gears itself stop the stifter > lever rather than like a Hurst shifter with a positive stop bolt. > - > > - > I guess this means no more banging the gears for races - ha > - > > - > > - > > - > jon > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > Jon, > - > > - > I don't have any data on the numbers but I have 6S 030 and have had it > since 4/11/69 and it has the same aluminum MT10 trans. I think all the 65s > had them, not sure if they changed later in 66. > - Back > - > in 1969 it would come out of second gear when deaccelerating at a > specific rpm and vibrate at about 70 mph. Had it tore down and checked by > a supposed "expert" and he couldn't find out why. Went > - to a > - > Toploader (I still have everything I have taken off) from 1992-2003 > then last year converted to a T-5. THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE besides > store the original 289 and built a 68 302 into a 347 > - > - > stroker to play with. > - > > - > Kenny Chrismon > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > Quoting Ourb <ourb@comcast.net>: > - > > - > - Jon, > - > - I have the original tranny from 6s135 and it is the same light > weight > - > - aluminum T-10. > - > - Bob > - > - > - > - -----Original Message----- > - > - From: jonlee@wt.net [mailto:jonlee@wt.net] > - > - Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:50 PM > - > - To: Shelby List > - > - Subject: 65 350 Tranny > - > - > - > - Hey ... > - > - > - > - > - > - Got some educational questions here. I pulled what I think is the > original > - > - T10 tranny out of my 65 -350 to change the fly wheel and noticed > some > - > - numbers. Does anyone know what they mean or used for? > - > - It is stamped on the main body driver side. > - > - > - > - > - > - I have you tell you guys/gals, this T 10 tranny is really light > compared to > - > - the cast Iron toploaders that I have dealt with. When I pulled the > tranny > - > - out, I took a chance and grabbed it before it > - > - fell to the floor off the jack. I was surprised that I caught it and > it > - > - didnt rip my arms out - hahaha (not recommended). The tranny is > freaking > - > - light and small. > - > - > - > - The other question is ," were these trannys specially made for the > 65-350 > - > - Shelbys?" > - > - I did some research and could not find another car that used the > aluminum > - > - T10 tranny. > - > - There is T10 M 1 casted into the body and T10 M7 in the aluminum > tail > - > - housing. > - > - Very interesting > - > - > - > - Thanks > - > - > - > - jon > - > - > - > - > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > - > > >
Lee (and all) - The T10 is back in the car where it belongs. It still shifts well after I had the shifter re-built and adjusted the linkage. It does jump out of gear once in a while but not too often. The RUG CR box is waiting for me to put it in a car. Regards, Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: <lmathias@bellsouth.net> To: <jonlee@wt.net>; "Shelby List" <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: Re: RE: 65 350 Tranny > The popping out of gear thing is caused by the aluminum cases expanding, this the the reasoning from 1970's. I just learned to drive with one hand on the wheel and one on the shifter. Hey, you steer a 65 with the throttle anyway. I had mine rebuilt and it only lasted a year autocrossing every weekend. Best move I ever made was putting a cast iron close ratio top loader in the car. Kept the original, however, and it was with the car when I sold it. > > > > From: jonlee@wt.net > > Date: 2005/07/29 Fri PM 11:41:26 EDT > > To: Shelby List <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> > > Subject: RE: 65 350 Tranny > > > > INteresting!! > > > > So can we say that this Aluminum T 10 was also used in 66 Shelbys or early 66 cars? > > Thanks to Kenny Chrisman and Bob who have early 66 Shelby cars, they too carry the same transmission that a 65 Shelby would have. > > > > Thanks for your input guys!!! Learned something new today!!! > > > > > > OH...by the way.. I have heard from numerous sources that the Tranny will pop out of 2nd gear but I have not experienced that yet. Howard Pardee , however, did state that the reason the gears pop > > out or wear out fast is because the gears itself stop the stifter lever rather than like a Hurst shifter with a positive stop bolt. > > > > I guess this means no more banging the gears for races - ha > > > > > > > > jon > > > > > > > > > > Jon, > > > > I don't have any data on the numbers but I have 6S 030 and have had it since 4/11/69 and it has the same aluminum MT10 trans. I think all the 65s had them, not sure if they changed later in 66. Back > > in 1969 it would come out of second gear when deaccelerating at a specific rpm and vibrate at about 70 mph. Had it tore down and checked by a supposed "expert" and he couldn't find out why. Went to a > > Toploader (I still have everything I have taken off) from 1992-2003 then last year converted to a T-5. THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE besides store the original 289 and built a 68 302 into a 347 > > stroker to play with. > > > > Kenny Chrismon > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Ourb <ourb@comcast.net>: > > > > - Jon, > > - I have the original tranny from 6s135 and it is the same light weight > > - aluminum T-10. > > - Bob > > - > > - -----Original Message----- > > - From: jonlee@wt.net [mailto:jonlee@wt.net] > > - Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:50 PM > > - To: Shelby List > > - Subject: 65 350 Tranny > > - > > - Hey ... > > - > > - > > - Got some educational questions here. I pulled what I think is the original > > - T10 tranny out of my 65 -350 to change the fly wheel and noticed some > > - numbers. Does anyone know what they mean or used for? > > - It is stamped on the main body driver side. > > - > > - > > - I have you tell you guys/gals, this T 10 tranny is really light compared to > > - the cast Iron toploaders that I have dealt with. When I pulled the tranny > > - out, I took a chance and grabbed it before it > > - fell to the floor off the jack. I was surprised that I caught it and it > > - didnt rip my arms out - hahaha (not recommended). The tranny is freaking > > - light and small. > > - > > - The other question is ," were these trannys specially made for the 65-350 > > - Shelbys?" > > - I did some research and could not find another car that used the aluminum > > - T10 tranny. > > - There is T10 M 1 casted into the body and T10 M7 in the aluminum tail > > - housing. > > - Very interesting > > - > > - Thanks > > - > > - jon > > - > > - > > > > > > > > >
