Here is a link to an actual 2005 Ford GT INVOICE that is still for sale at a Ford dealership in Alabama http://home.comcast.net/~ccantrell25/WHITE_GT.pdf This dealer, if he were to sell it today for MSRP (with the 2006's being built his car is now, technechly one year old) he would make (including holdback) $ 16,920.75 est. - That is allot of jack for a Ford dealer to make on one car - And in this guys last auction he tried to make another 20k on top of the 16.9k!!!!! 36.9k on one new car that they are building more of every day - Hummmmm??!! O.K. - At this point I say "pull up the covers, Mr. Ford Dealer, because you will be sleeping with this car for awhile!!" Also Look at this link and the header on this link www.fordgtprices.com August 2 Update Ford GT sales plummet 40% in July May sales were 117 cars, June sales were 150 cars, but July sales dropped to only 91 If I were a Ford dealer I would now realize that the "suckers" who pay over sticker are long gone and it is time to see if I can just get MSRP for the damn thing - If this does not stop Ford will have to moth ball the car just like they did the Thunderbird - Frickin dealers can truly kill a car!! I bet they do the same with the 2007 Shelby GT 500.................................. Just my $ 0.02 cents worth ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan To: Stephen G. Becker Cc: shelbymustang@carmemories.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Re: '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain ummmm sorry !!! NO way only making $7k on a $152K car !!! I bought a new Pontiac GTP for my daughter last year ... $32k list and bought it for $24,200 .. I know it's a GM product Dan "Stephen G. Becker" <sbeckerone@charter.net> wrote: Hey - At MSRP do they make 25k?? Someone told me they make like 7k at 152k MSRP - That number did not seem right ...............and you are correct - just wait until the 06's come out in September ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Comer To: Stephen G. Becker ; Dan Drury ; CARMEMORIES Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain We have 4 Ford stores in my immediate area in Milwaukee. 3 of them have GT's cooling their heels on the showroom floor. Did I mention this is MILWAUKEE? LOL My check for a black or blue one at MSRP is waiting for the first guy who wants to be happy with making a measly $25k on a GT - and saving the interest and floor plan money from just sitting around and not working on "bread and butter" cars. I hear that is where most dealers make their money? We'll see what happens when the new "Limited Edition" or whatever they are calling the Titanium colored version for '06 does to the '05 prices soon. My buddy who owns 5 Ford stores supposedly has 3 of these coming in. Stay tuned for more of "As the GT World Burns" on Carmemories TV. LOL -Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen G. Becker To: Dan Drury ; CARMEMORIES Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: Re: '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain ----- Original Message ----- From: tibiafx1 To: Stephen G. Becker Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Ford GT price scam Stephen, I have been watching FORD GT prices on ebay for as long as they have been available and MallofGeorogiaFord always tries to outbid anyone even other Ford Dealers to keep the price up. I reported this to Ebay 2 months ago. I had given them at least 4 instances where the car did not sell and MallofGeorgiaFord was the top bidder. Eric Johnson Galpin Ford in hte San Fernando Valley, largets Ford Dealer in the world, notified me a bout 10 days ago they had a blue GT with organge numbering and stripes and they wanted $279K for it. EJ Stephen G. Becker wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen G. Becker To: shelbymustang@carmemories.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Fw: Ford GT price scam ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen G. Becker To: ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: Ford GT price scam I wanted to share this e mail with the list members as there has been allot of e mail postings going on lately about the manipulation of FORD GT prices. It appears that it has gotten so out of hand that a new website has poped up ( www.fordgtprices.com) to "out" those dealers and individuals who are trying (abit unsuccessfully) to keep the prices on these new cars above MSRP. If you look on e bay you will see about 50 or so BRAND NEW Ford GT's and you will see Ford dealers bidding on other Ford dealers cars - yeah, o.k., right................... Anyways, we have a guy on this list Patrick Krook who says he has sold tons of these cars - So I ask Mr. Krook to comment on not only what this Ford dealership is doing (mallofgeorgiaford) but what other Ford dealerships are doing to "hold the line" on what is obviously becoming a car that is selling at or near MSRP. I would also love to see other peoples comments on this matter as well. Perhaps as forshadowing I should start a www.2007shelbymustangprices.com website as I can see the writing on the wall on that car as well....................... What do you all think??? SGB ----- Original Message ----- From: eBay Member: 360f1spider05 To: sbeckerone@charter.net Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Message from eBay Member eBay sent this message to stephen becker (stephen_becker). 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Privacy Policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/privacy-policy.html User Agreement: http:// ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Drury To: CARMEMORIES Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain By Sharon Silke Carty, USA TODAY 6/27/05 DETROIT - It didn't take quite as long as a pregnancy, but Angela Biesecker was eager for her baby to arrive. Angela Biesecker enjoys her 2005 Mustang in Neenah, Wis. By Larry Crane, Oshkosh Northwestern, for USA TODAY Like lots of expectant parents, Biesecker trolled Internet sites looking for more information, wondering how long it would take and what to expect when it finally came. And then on June 17 came the moment she was waiting for: a call from her local Ford dealer. Her 2005 Legend Lime Mustang was finally delivered. "It took five months and three days," says Biesecker of Neenah, Wis. "I was fine with the wait. I was just more worried about not getting it before the production year ended." Biesecker, who put a $100 deposit on the car in early January, may be among the last people who ordered a 2005 who will actually get one. Ford is working hard to fill the remaining 5,500 outstanding Mustang orders but has told dealers to stop taking 2005 orders and start selling the 2006 models. For the 2005 model year, Ford redesigned the Mustang for the first time since 1994, and buyers have been lined up since long before it went on sale in October. The automaker gave its iconic car a retro look with round headlights, chrome details inside and a throaty roar when accelerating, all hearkening back to its mid-'60s roots. And fans have been enthralled. Sales of the Mustang are up 47% through the end of May over what they were last year before the redesign. The redesigned car is selling better than Chrysler's popular 300 sedan. It also is outselling 13 brands, including Scion, Saturn, Mercedes-Benz and Subaru. "Demand for the 2005 model has already been filled from a production standpoint," says Jim Owens, marketing manager for Mustang. "We haven't seen anything like this for Mustang in recent history." The Mustang buzz is so hot, in fact, it's even helping boost the price of used 2003 and 2004 models from before the redesign. Kelley Blue Book says used values have been up as much as $1,000 at auction as dealers scramble to have something on their lots to offer customers if they can't provide a new model. "The introduction of a new vehicle typically brings down the value of the car it replaces, but we have found an anomaly in the Mustang," says Jack Nerad, editorial director and executive market analyst at Kelley Blue Book. "We have seen this phenomenon before but never to this extent and for this long a period." The last time used values went up after a new model was introduced was in 2001 when BMW introduced the new 7 Series, which loyal BMW fans initially despised. Demand went up for the less controversial older model for about a month or so. Most of the back orders for the new Mustang are for the GT model, which has a 300-horsepower V-8 engine and sells for about $25,000. Many dealers have the 210-horsepower V-6 model on their lots, but those don't stay around for long - less than three weeks, on average. "I'm not out of cars, but that car is the hottest car on the market right now," says Dan Hay, a dealer in Bakersfield, Calif. Waiting has become almost as entertaining for buyers as actually getting the car. At some Internet sites, such as BlueOvalNews.com, Mustang buyers have hooked up with anonymous Ford employees to track where in the production cycle their car is. Someone even leaked a number usually reserved for dealers that lets buyers check on their car. Armed with their vehicle identification number, buyers-to-be can check whether their car has been scheduled for a build date, if it's already on the line or if it's in the process of being delivered to their dealer. "I was probably checking a couple times a week," says Jim Vance, a Cincinnati resident who picked up his Sonic Blue GT convertible last week. "It's just because I was so excited about the car." Art Spinella, an analyst at CNW Marketing Research, says he expects demand for the Mustang will remain strong for about 18 months. Considering the car went on sale in October, that means supply could stay limited until next April. "There's an awful lot of breadth to the Mustang but not a lot of depth," Spinella says. "A lot of people would consider driving one, but it isn't a primary vehicle in a household." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
It's still hard for me to believe that they charge $5000 for the LeMans stripes! What, maybe a pint of paint at the most? At 12:50 AM 8/8/05, Stephen G. Becker wrote: >Here is a link to an actual 2005 Ford GT INVOICE that is still for sale >at a Ford dealership in Alabama > ><http://home.comcast.net/~ccantrell25/WHITE_GT.pdf>http://home.comcast.net/~ccantrell25/WHITE_GT.pdf > >This dealer, if he were to sell it today for MSRP (with the 2006's being >built his car is now, technechly one year old) he would make (including >holdback) $ 16,920.75 est. - That is allot of jack for a Ford dealer to >make on one car - And in this guys last auction he tried to make another >20k on top of the 16.9k!!!!! > >36.9k on one new car that they are building more of every day - Hummmmm??!! > >O.K. - At this point I say "pull up the covers, Mr. Ford Dealer, because >you will be sleeping with this car for awhile!!" > >Also > >Look at this link and the header on this link > ><http://www.fordgtprices.com>www.fordgtprices.com > >August 2 Update >Ford GT sales plummet 40% in July >May sales were 117 cars, June sales were 150 cars, but July sales dropped >to only 91 > >If I were a Ford dealer I would now realize that the "suckers" who pay >over sticker are long gone and it is time to see if I can just get MSRP >for the damn thing - > >If this does not stop Ford will have to moth ball the car just like they >did the Thunderbird - Frickin dealers can truly kill a car!! > >I bet they do the same with the 2007 Shelby GT >500.................................. > >Just my $ 0.02 cents worth >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:ttastage2@yahoo.com>Dan >To: <mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>Stephen G. Becker >Cc: <mailto:shelbymustang@carmemories.com>shelbymustang@carmemories.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:46 AM >Subject: Re: '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain > >ummmm sorry !!! NO way only making $7k on a $152K car !!! I bought a new >Pontiac GTP for my daughter last year ... $32k list and bought it for >$24,200 .. I know it's a GM product >[] > > >Dan > >"Stephen G. Becker" ><<mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>sbeckerone@charter.net> wrote: >Hey - > >At MSRP do they make 25k?? Someone told me they make like 7k at 152k MSRP >- That number did not seem right > >...............and you are correct - just wait until the 06's come out in >September > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:colin@colinsclassicauto.com>Colin Comer >To: <mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>Stephen G. Becker ; ><mailto:dan_drury@midamcorp.com>Dan Drury ; ><mailto:shelbymustang@carmemories.com>CARMEMORIES >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:21 AM >Subject: Re: '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain > >We have 4 Ford stores in my immediate area in Milwaukee. 3 of them have >GT's cooling their heels on the showroom floor. Did I mention this is >MILWAUKEE? LOL > >My check for a black or blue one at MSRP is waiting for the first guy who >wants to be happy with making a measly $25k on a GT - and saving the >interest and floor plan money from just sitting around and not working on >"bread and butter" cars. I hear that is where most dealers make their money? > >We'll see what happens when the new "Limited Edition" or whatever they are >calling the Titanium colored version for '06 does to the '05 prices soon. >My buddy who owns 5 Ford stores supposedly has 3 of these coming in. > >Stay tuned for more of "As the GT World Burns" on Carmemories TV. LOL > >-Colin >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>Stephen G. Becker >To: <mailto:dan_drury@midamcorp.com>Dan Drury ; ><mailto:shelbymustang@carmemories.com>CARMEMORIES >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:09 AM >Subject: Re: '05 Mustang roars to 47% sales gain > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:tibiafx1@earthlink.net>tibiafx1 >To: <mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>Stephen G. Becker >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:11 AM >Subject: Re: Fw: Ford GT price scam > >Stephen, > >I have been watching FORD GT prices on ebay for as long as they have been >available and MallofGeorogiaFord always tries to outbid anyone even other >Ford Dealers to keep the price up. I reported this to Ebay 2 months >ago. I had given them at least 4 instances where the car did not sell >and MallofGeorgiaFord was the top bidder. > >Eric Johnson > >Galpin Ford in hte San Fernando Valley, largets Ford Dealer in the world, >notified me a bout 10 days ago they had a blue GT with organge numbering >and stripes and they wanted $279K for it. > >EJ > > > > >Stephen G. Becker wrote: >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>Stephen G. Becker >>To: <mailto:shelbymustang@carmemories.com>shelbymustang@carmemories.com >>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:29 PM >>Subject: Fw: Ford GT price scam >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>Stephen G. Becker >>To: <mailto:ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com>ShelbyMustang@carmemories.com >>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:27 PM >>Subject: Ford GT price scam >> >>I wanted to share this e mail with the list members as there has been >>allot of e mail postings going on lately about the manipulation of FORD >>GT prices. >> >>It appears that it has gotten so out of hand that a new website has poped >>up ( <http://www.fordgtprices.com/>www.fordgtprices.com) to "out" those >>dealers and individuals who are trying (abit unsuccessfully) to keep the >>prices on these new cars above MSRP. >> >>If you look on e bay you will see about 50 or so BRAND NEW Ford GT's and >>you will see Ford dealers bidding on other Ford dealers cars - yeah, >>o.k., right................... >> >> >>Anyways, we have a guy on this list Patrick Krook who says he has sold >>tons of these cars - So I ask Mr. Krook to comment on not only what this >>Ford dealership is doing (mallofgeorgiaford) but what other Ford >>dealerships are doing to "hold the line" on what is obviously becoming a >>car that is selling at or near MSRP. >> >>I would also love to see other peoples comments on this matter as well. >>Perhaps as forshadowing I should start a >><http://www.2007shelbymustangprices.com/>www.2007shelbymustangprices.com >>website as I can see the writing on the wall on that car as >>well....................... >> >>What do you all think??? >> >>SGB >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:member@ebay.com>eBay Member: 360f1spider05 >>To: <mailto:sbeckerone@charter.net>sbeckerone@charter.net >>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:42 AM >>Subject: Message from eBay Member >> >> >> >> >>eBay sent this message to stephen becker (stephen_becker). >>Your registered name is included to show this message originated from >>eBay. >><http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/name-userid-emails.html>Learn more. >>[] >> Question from eBay Member -- Respond Now >>ebay >> >>[] >> >>eBay sent this message on behalf of an eBay member via My Messages. >>Responses sent using email will not reach the eBay member. 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Her 2005 Legend Lime Mustang was finally delivered. > >"It took five months and three days," says Biesecker of Neenah, Wis. "I >was fine with the wait. I was just more worried about not getting it >before the production year ended." > >Biesecker, who put a $100 deposit on the car in early January, may be >among the last people who ordered a 2005 who will actually get one. Ford >is working hard to fill the remaining 5,500 outstanding Mustang orders but >has told dealers to stop taking 2005 orders and start selling the 2006 models. > >For the 2005 model year, Ford redesigned the Mustang for the first time >since 1994, and buyers have been lined up since long before it went on >sale in October. The automaker gave its iconic car a retro look with round >headlights, chrome details inside and a throaty roar when accelerating, >all hearkening back to its mid-'60s roots. And fans have been enthralled. > >Sales of the Mustang are up 47% through the end of May over what they were >last year before the redesign. The redesigned car is selling better than >Chrysler's popular 300 sedan. It also is outselling 13 brands, including >Scion, Saturn, Mercedes-Benz and Subaru. > >"Demand for the 2005 model has already been filled from a production >standpoint," says Jim Owens, marketing manager for Mustang. "We haven't >seen anything like this for Mustang in recent history." > >The Mustang buzz is so hot, in fact, it's even helping boost the price of >used 2003 and 2004 models from before the redesign. Kelley Blue Book says >used values have been up as much as $1,000 at auction as dealers scramble >to have something on their lots to offer customers if they can't provide a >new model. > >"The introduction of a new vehicle typically brings down the value of the >car it replaces, but we have found an anomaly in the Mustang," says Jack >Nerad, editorial director and executive market analyst at Kelley Blue >Book. "We have seen this phenomenon before but never to this extent and >for this long a period." > >The last time used values went up after a new model was introduced was in >2001 when BMW introduced the new 7 Series, which loyal BMW fans initially >despised. Demand went up for the less controversial older model for about >a month or so. > >Most of the back orders for the new Mustang are for the GT model, which >has a 300-horsepower V-8 engine and sells for about $25,000. Many dealers >have the 210-horsepower V-6 model on their lots, but those don't stay >around for long — less than three weeks, on average. "I'm not out of cars, >but that car is the hottest car on the market right now," says Dan Hay, a >dealer in Bakersfield, Calif. > >Waiting has become almost as entertaining for buyers as actually getting >the car. At some Internet sites, such as BlueOvalNews.com, Mustang buyers >have hooked up with anonymous Ford employees to track where in the >production cycle their car is. > >Someone even leaked a number usually reserved for dealers that lets buyers >check on their car. Armed with their vehicle identification number, >buyers-to-be can check whether their car has been scheduled for a build >date, if it's already on the line or if it's in the process of being >delivered to their dealer. > >"I was probably checking a couple times a week," says Jim Vance, a >Cincinnati resident who picked up his Sonic Blue GT convertible last week. >"It's just because I was so excited about the car." > >Art Spinella, an analyst at CNW Marketing Research, says he expects demand >for the Mustang will remain strong for about 18 months. Considering the >car went on sale in October, that means supply could stay limited until >next April. > >"There's an awful lot of breadth to the Mustang but not a lot of depth," >Spinella says. 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