1968 shelby gt500kr

Yes, you only need 94% for top flight, and paint is around 200-225 points in total (originality and condition), or max. 5%, and of course you can get a few % back for driving the car to the meet, so it is very possible to be a top flight with BC/CC, well done or not. It is just much harder to get the higher level awards, like Duntov, etc. I would call "hammering" it if you deduct over say 150 points for BC/CC, some would do that too. So if you have much else wrong, that will get you.

 

I not well versed in NCRS but the judging sheets for '63 to '67 shows a max deduct for Body Color Originality at 85 points. This is for the correct color, I believe.
Then there is a max of 45 point deduct for Body Paint Originality and a max of 40 point deduct for condition.
This would read to me as a max of 170 points if it's the wrong color and the paint application is wrong and the condition of the paint is poor.
What am I missing?

 

You are missing the deducts for the door jams, hood edges, engine compartment edges, etc., that are in other sections.

 

Thanks. I didn't think about the paint on those parts.

Would you agree that if the paint color is correct and the BC/CC is done well and the condition is nice in all areas, a deduct of more than say 100 attributed to paint would be extreme?

 

I'm a '67 judge, and am a bit lenient on BC/CC, as long as it doesn't look like some $50K custom job with 18 coats a mile deep, etc. The color is most important to me, and the lack of depth in the paint, if you use a CC, even over lacquer, as some do, I feel a deduct of 25-50 is appropriate. I have seen some judges who are absolute purists in all things, and actually get annoyed when they see a BC/CC that is obvious, they would go over 100, luckily there are fewer of them around as time goes on . But as we say, NCRS is also spelled ANAL.

 

Really? I'm shocked!

Going off subject here but...
Don't know if this is true with SAAC or MCA but I have found it interesting how some (I'm sure it's few) NCRS judges know how to judge a car but have no real idea what is involved in correctly restoring a car. I'm not trying to generalize, just what I have seen.
I think judges should at some time take part in a ground up restoration project.

 

Well, I would agree in general, there are some that seem to be professional judges who travel around, judge, and meet all the time, but have never, or not in a long time, restored a car themselves. Actually, part of our chapter's judging school experience was to help with a member's frame-off restoration (you can do that with Corvettes, unlike most Shelbys or Mustangs). Great practical knowledge and a great deal of fun too, all should do this.

 

that's all folks.

my personal opinion of lime green isn't worth 2 cents. However when 99.9% of all buyers don't want it (lime green), then you have a problem with the cars value.

There's a nice dark green (original color) '66 GT-350 that's repeatedly been ebay and can't get bid beyond $85,000. A '66 red car needing a lot of rust repair was bid to nearly that. that's just the marketplace doing the talking. Popular colors matter in regards to a cars value.

they don't call it re-sale red for nothing.

Z.

 

I think saying .1% is all that would buy lime gold is a wee bit exaggerated. I buy cars I like not what someone else likes at resale, but that's just me.

 

you are right.

I was exaggerating to make the point that less popular colors are harder to sell & bring less money.


Z.

 

You guys are tough on colors, I wonder what you think of this '64 1/2 I just finished restoration on for my daughter's graduation present.

 

My 12 year old daughter loves it.

 

Oh yeah, this is definitely a girl's car. The color is the exact Ford factory color "Playmate Pink", from the only one that year given to the Playboy Playmate of the Year.