<HEAD> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Is this a 2005 or 2006 F= ord GT? I assume this is a 2005 Ford GT. Are you really interested in buyin= g this car from your dealer? Do you ever buy a new car from your dealer and= if so do you always pay sticker or above for it? A lot of dealers thi= nk they can make a premium on a Ford GT by going to E-Bay. The problem with= thinking is that the people who have more sense than money and that w= ould be the first on their block to have a Ford GT and that are willing to = pay a premium for such a car are long gone. </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The dealer needs to be d= isillusioned first. Until the dealer figures out that he won't get list pri= ce and above for the car I doubt you'll budge them off their position. It d= oesn=92t make much sense to reason or explain things to an underling when y= ou should be talking to the dealership owner or the sales manager anyway. D= id you also note that they called you and that you didn't call them?</P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I agree with you that th= e market for the 2005 Ford GT is soft and getting softer. I think there is = a problem for both the 2006 Ford GT and the 2005 Ford GT. the 2006 has a li= st price of $10,000 higher than the 2005 model. It will be hard to sell a 2= 006 Ford GT for $10,000 more than the cost of the same 2005 Ford GT model w= hen there are plenty of 2005 Ford GT=92s around. Also, it will be difficult= to keep the price of the 2005 Ford GT up when someone can buy a 2006 model= instead. </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Ford has said that they = planned to make 1000 2005's, 1000 2006's, and 500 2007's. I think Ford has = over estimated the market totals for the Ford GT. I will be surprised = if they come close to these numbers at all. If there are a large numbe= r of 2005 and 2006 Ford GT's sitting around unsold the dealers won't be pla= cing very many orders for the Ford GT for 2007. A dealer doesn't make = any money if a car is sitting on their lot or showroom floor, in fact it co= st them money to have inventory sitting around. </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The 2007 Shelby Mustang = is a different story. There is a lot bigger market for a under $50,000 new = Shelby Mustang than there is for an over $150,000 Ford GT. Plus I hear the = new 2007 Shelby will be offered in both coupe and convertible. </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I agree with you that&nb= sp;right now the market for a Ford GT is a buyer's market and it will conti= nue to be so for quite some time. The 2007 Shelby is a different discussion= for a different time. </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Ask your NC dealer is go= ing to have a "post Ophelia" sale. But in all seriousness if you want the c= ar go talk to the dealer and keep tabs on it. Just make sure you talk = to the powers in charge there and strike up a friendship with them. Let the= Ford GT sit there for a couple months and let reality set in. Gi= ve them a low-ball offer and hold your ground. Time is on your side on this= one. Plus the friendships you develop now might help you with the purchase= of that Shelby in 2007. Good luck with your dealer's Ford GT. Speakin= g for myself even though I'd love to have a Ford GT, I have a hard time jus= tifying the cost of a car that where the option of stripes cost $1,200. </P= > <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Jim Seisser &= nbsp; <BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>Fro= m: Joe Bright <JBB@APCABINETS.COM><BR>Sent: Sep 15, 2005 9:12 AM <BR>To: Sh= elby <SHELBYMUSTANG@CARMEMORIES.COM><BR>Subject: Ford GT Craze or Crazy <BR= ><BR></P><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-885= 9-1" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"><ZZZMETA content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2722"= name=3D"GENERATOR"> <STYLE></STYLE> </ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY bgColor=3D"#ffffff"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just got a call from our hometown Ford dea= ler here in beautiful Asheville, North Carolina. They finally got a Ford GT= in. I asked for the details including the price. Now get this: the salespe= rson says that there is no price but the sales manager has told them to tel= l their potential customers that they are: "accepting bids and it's go= ing on eBay", she exclaimed. I told her that that is why I lost interest to= begin with and that the Ford GT market right now is as soft as Charmin. Th= e exact same thing could happen with the 2007 Shelby G.T.500's. What do you= guys see with the Ford GT's today? Joe Bright.</FONT></DIV></ZZZBODY></ZZZ= HTML></BODY><PRE> ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com</PRE>
Hi Jim! Yep... Different story in terms of cost. Also we have to look at potential usage. I can't even fit in a Ford GT. So think about the guys who would like one who can't even fit in the damn thing. You can't easily park it anywhere unless you make sure nothing is on either side of the vehicle. It is a market un to its own. The new Shelby GT500 completely different. You'll have the usage, style and performance not to mention you can actually own one in terms of cost. These will get snapped up fairly quickly in my view. There is a broader range of enthusiast for this car. Current original Shelby owners, Mustang heads and performance junkies not to mention the sweet little P.A who wants to kick some but on the roads turning all the boys heads. Different car, different market completely. I don't think the dealers will want to play the same games with the New Shelby. I think they will only be too happy to have a vehicle they can sell and sell quickly. Regards Randall ----- Original Message ----- From: ecj To: Shelby Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:13 AM Subject: Re: Ford GT Craze or Crazy Is this a 2005 or 2006 Ford GT? I assume this is a 2005 Ford GT. Are you really interested in buying this car from your dealer? Do you ever buy a new car from your dealer and if so do you always pay sticker or above for it? A lot of dealers think they can make a premium on a Ford GT by going to E-Bay. The problem with thinking is that the people who have more sense than money and that would be the first on their block to have a Ford GT and that are willing to pay a premium for such a car are long gone. The dealer needs to be disillusioned first. Until the dealer figures out that he won't get list price and above for the car I doubt you'll budge them off their position. It doesn't make much sense to reason or explain things to an underling when you should be talking to the dealership owner or the sales manager anyway. Did you also note that they called you and that you didn't call them? I agree with you that the market for the 2005 Ford GT is soft and getting softer. I think there is a problem for both the 2006 Ford GT and the 2005 Ford GT. the 2006 has a list price of $10,000 higher than the 2005 model. It will be hard to sell a 2006 Ford GT for $10,000 more than the cost of the same 2005 Ford GT model when there are plenty of 2005 Ford GT's around. Also, it will be difficult to keep the price of the 2005 Ford GT up when someone can buy a 2006 model instead. Ford has said that they planned to make 1000 2005's, 1000 2006's, and 500 2007's. I think Ford has over estimated the market totals for the Ford GT. I will be surprised if they come close to these numbers at all. If there are a large number of 2005 and 2006 Ford GT's sitting around unsold the dealers won't be placing very many orders for the Ford GT for 2007. A dealer doesn't make any money if a car is sitting on their lot or showroom floor, in fact it cost them money to have inventory sitting around. The 2007 Shelby Mustang is a different story. There is a lot bigger market for a under $50,000 new Shelby Mustang than there is for an over $150,000 Ford GT. Plus I hear the new 2007 Shelby will be offered in both coupe and convertible. I agree with you that right now the market for a Ford GT is a buyer's market and it will continue to be so for quite some time. The 2007 Shelby is a different discussion for a different time. Ask your NC dealer is going to have a "post Ophelia" sale. But in all seriousness if you want the car go talk to the dealer and keep tabs on it. Just make sure you talk to the powers in charge there and strike up a friendship with them. Let the Ford GT sit there for a couple months and let reality set in. Give them a low-ball offer and hold your ground. Time is on your side on this one. Plus the friendships you develop now might help you with the purchase of that Shelby in 2007. Good luck with your dealer's Ford GT. Speaking for myself even though I'd love to have a Ford GT, I have a hard time justifying the cost of a car that where the option of stripes cost $1,200. Jim Seisser -----Original Message----- From: Joe Bright Sent: Sep 15, 2005 9:12 AM To: Shelby Subject: Ford GT Craze or Crazy Just got a call from our hometown Ford dealer here in beautiful Asheville, North Carolina. They finally got a Ford GT in. I asked for the details including the price. Now get this: the salesperson says that there is no price but the sales manager has told them to tell their potential customers that they are: "accepting bids and it's going on eBay", she exclaimed. I told her that that is why I lost interest to begin with and that the Ford GT market right now is as soft as Charmin. The exact same thing could happen with the 2007 Shelby G.T.500's. What do you guys see with the Ford GT's today? Joe Bright. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
