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Is it a Shelby or a Mustang?

Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by fnkmstr67, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. fnkmstr67

    fnkmstr67 Active Member

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    I recently bought my father's 66 GT350, and I just got the new title back in my name. The Minnesota Certificate of Title states it as being a 66 Ford Mustang. I have a copy of the original title my Dad first got when he registered the car in 66 and the Colorado Title says the car a 66 Shelby 2 DR HT. Should I try and get my new title to say the car is a Shelby?
     
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    If in doubt, check in with SAAC with the Ford vin. They'll confirm (hopefully) that you, in deed, own a genuine Shelby. There's lots of genuine Shelbys out there titled as a Ford coupe, Ford Mustang, Ford 2dr htp.
    Here's keeping my fingers crossed for ya.
     
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    I have had to assist others in my state to get the correct registration. Many state vehicle registrars do not know the difference between Shelby Mustang and Ford Mustangs. The Shelby Mustangs were factory built by Shelby American, Inc. not Ford and have a distinct and designated VIN that is different than a Ford VIN. Be sure to with SAAC on the validity of the car first. If it is a true Shelby Mustang be sure to register it with both the state and your insurance provider as a Shelby Mustang so there is no VIN confusion. It will save you and possible future owners problems in later years.

    Don J.
     
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    By all means go back and demand a correction! :grrr:
     
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    contact the '65/'66 Shelby registrar at SAAC
    (Howard Pardee: 65-66registrar@saac.com ) concerning this issue before you go and demand anything.
     
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    Why,would you want to do that. If your state is like mine & you reg. as a Shelby, your going to pay bucks for reg. ,exsise tax , etc. Mine is reg. as a 68 Ford 2 door sedan. Who cares how it's reg. I pay 6,50 year exsise tax. If I told them it was a Shelby, they look it up to see what it's worth, & they gotcha, Some of these cars go for 60-70-80 grand, & mine is legally reg.---S.
     
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    I contacted Howard Pardee, and he said I shouldn't be concerned about whether it says Shelby or not. The important thing is the serial number.
    Thanks for the input.
     
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    Little ol' Granny, at the car dealer, grew up when all there were was Model T's. She was in charge of the paperwork. NOBODY could tell her anything. This means from certain dealers, every thing sold was a "XXXX" "Ford".
    And if the Secretary of State accepted that, it's all OK.
     
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    Yep, that's what I said. My title says Ford htp. Makes no difference to me. SAAC and me know that it's legit.....and I guess when I decide to sell, I can render the SAAC document with the car.
    Now if someone feels inadequate with a title saying it's just a Ford, then go ahead and change it.
     
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    Serial number is all that matters...Why advertise to DMV your car is a Shelby on
    the rare instance of someone hacking their data base and getting your address.
    Mr. Pardee is right on target...David
     
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    I know its not COMPLETELY the same thing, but I got my '87 titled as a Dodge to keep things cheap. I have the Shelby Build sheet, and the original title says shelby, so who would argue with me?

    jim
     
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    My little old state (RI) doesn't recognize Shelby in their database. They use Ford but accept GT 500 as the model. The registration only allows so many letters so it is registered as Ford GT 5. The irony is the plate #.... SHLBY
     
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    When I got the Utah title for the 86 GLHS the title said Shelby when it was transfered to Minnesota the title now says Dodge. I called the DMV in St. Paul and was told if I wanted to switch the title it would cost some $300 plus attorney fees. The title Reads Dodge Omni.

    On the other hand the title for the 89 CSX which in Oregon read Shelby Shadow now reads Dodge Shel Shadow.

    Both cars were sent to Shelby American Inc. for modifications.
     
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    A lot of states do not have a special designation for Shelby's. Washington State defines them as SHELCO. My Cobra and 65-GT-350 both had this designation on the title. It is far more important that the original VIN number is submitted to SAAC for verification. There is only a problem if the state has a Shelby designation but calls your car something else.

    There were a number of GT-350H cars sold from our local dealership in 1967-68. A kid I know bought one, and being a kid, didn't baby the car. Sometime between 1967 and 1975, he hit a concrete light stand in a parking lot. Why the car wasn't totaled is beyond me, but he got it fixed. The way they fixed it was to get another Mustang fastback, cut the car at the drivers door centerline, and mate this to the Shelby. The only giant fly in the ointment was the fact that they never kept the original sheet metal with the 6R09K numbers. Fast forward to the late 1980's, a friend of mine in Seattle wants to buy the car. Only problem the title says it's a 6 cylinder 'stang. The State of Washington is not interested in correcting the problem.
    It was finally resolved because the owner of the car also happened to be the son of a powerful State Legislator. It took a lot of arm-bending and months to resolve, but the car has the correct title now.
     

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