> Actually, Patrick, I didn't get your voice mail - but I can't wait - it > ought to be a good one! I am in the shop today with Galen Govier and only > checking emails....do I need a fire suit to check voice mail??? > > BTW, I do think you have been a little tough on dealers in some of your > advertisements. Are we even now? LOL > > Colin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Krook" <mrhtwls (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> > To: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>; "James G Cowles" > <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; > <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: Stephen responds > > >>I see you got my voicemail message Colin. >> >> Thank you for not painting all brokers with the same paintbrush. >> Illinois isn't as uptight as Wisconsin in (probably) this one area only. >> As far as IL Secretary of State is concerned, we run a marketing website >> and nothing more because we do not buy to resell or confer title. >> >> I stepped into this mudpuddle because I to recognized that "sideways" >> dealing is the ultimate threat to the classic car collector, both >> hobbyist and the investment collector. Not all of us are as lucky to >> have owned 50 cars by age 20. I had 13 cars through my highschool and >> college careers. Buying one beater after another somehow doesn't equate >> to a vintage collection ranging from Alphas to 427 Cobras (very cool). >> Still I see that we are on the same side. >> >> Show Your Auto is my humble attempt make good process and national market >> reach accessible directly to the REAL private owners of these cars, NOT >> to enable pinhookers and protect long term owners from unwittly sell to >> "Flipper". (Not that they haven't tried) Hopefully we'll turn the tide >> against "Large Private Buyer and Sellers" who want the gold and glory >> without the blood and sweat that goes with it. Here's to a Dolphin Safe >> marketplace! >> >> [End shamless self-promotional diatribe] >> >> ~Patrick Krook, CEO >> www.ShowYourAuto.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com> >> To: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>; James G Cowles >> <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com; SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com; >> jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:56:41 AM >> Subject: Re: Stephen responds >> >> >> Oh, before there is a hit out on me, let me clarify that there ARE >> reputable >> brokers that DO stand behind their deals....guys that are up front about >> what they are doing and buyers know they are using a broker, who gets >> paid >> what, etc. It is the guys masquerading as "collectors" that sell more >> cars >> in a year than most dealers that gets me. I have no problem with guys who >> tell me straight up that they want to broker a deal, tell me what they >> want, >> and I wire their fee to them and the purchase price to the owner. And I >> won't even talk about the unscrupulous bastards that steal pictures, post >> a >> car for sale, and then pretend it is theirs and contact the owner AFTER >> they >> have a fish on the line. >> >> Ok, I am stepping off the soap box now. LOL >> >> Colin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com> >> To: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; >> <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:47 AM >> Subject: Re: Stephen responds >> >> >>> RIGHT! It is a PITA to be a dealer in Wisconsin. Which is what chaps me >>> about these curbstone guys, brokers, whatever...they put a deal >>> together, >>> and then run and hide if there is a problem. SGB, for example, has run >>> the >>> ad in Hemmings for years about him being the "Largest Private Buyer and >>> Seller" of Shelbys... so what does that mean? Is he a broker? A guy who >>> buys and flips? Or a dealer trying to look like he is not? It is >>> confusing >>> and I am sure I will get a nasty email from him and maybe even a burning >>> cross in my yard. LOL - although he is "not on the list". >>> >>> As far as I am concerned, if you are going to buy and sell cars, you >>> need >>> to be honest about it - with the state, with the IRS, with your >>> customers. >>> All these guys making big money on cars, taking cash or small checks, >>> etc. >>> and not reporting it are asking for trouble. Skipping title is a Federal >>> offense, as is not reporting cash sales. All it takes is one ticked off >>> buyer or a seller making a call and you are in deep you know what. >>> >>> Wisconsin is perhaps the toughest, as we have requirements on paperwork, >>> record keeping, what kind of building you are allowed to sell out of, >>> having to take a test to get a salesperson license, putting up a $50,000 >>> bond with the state in case you stiff anybody they can offer >>> retribution, >>> etc. I am glad they are tough, although it does make it hard to do >>> "simple" deals because of the miles of paperwork! >>> >>> And they watch us like a hawk...Right, Jim? LOL >>> >>> Colin >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com> >>> To: <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; >>> <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: Stephen responds >>> >>> >>>> In the State of Georgia they have a very weird law that states you dont >>>> have to be a dealer to trade cars that are a certain age or low >>>> production thus Stephen doesnt need a dealers license. In the state of >>>> Wisconsin I cant post a car without them calling me. I had a bunch of >>>> cars listed for customers on my website with their phone numbers ( they >>>> werent even here and I wasnt the seller!) and they made me pull it >>>> down, >>>> I dont want all the paperwork involved with being a dealer (RIGHT >>>> COLIN!) >>>> >>>> >>>>>From: g adams <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> >>>>>To: STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>, jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, Shelby List >>>>><shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>>>>Subject: Re: Stephen responds >>>>>Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:54:12 -0800 (PST) >>>>> >>>>>Not! >>>>> >>>>>--- STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > "I am not a dealer"...but..."I am getting out of the >>>>> > business"....What >>>>> > business? I thought that SGB was just an enthusiast >>>>> > like us. What a >>>>> > let-down! >>>>> > Regards, Stan >>>>> > >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> > From: <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net> >>>>> > To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:17 PM >>>>> > Subject: Re: Stephen responds >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > This is from the e-mail reponses on his last >>>>> > auction # 4600072984 . Sounds >>>>> > like retribution to me. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > "Q: Dear Mr. Becker, I noted this car has been on >>>>> > Ebay 3 times now wanted >>>>> > to know if there is a problem with the car. Also, I >>>>> > noted that you were >>>>> > having a liquidation sale. Does this mean you are >>>>> > > getting out of the business after all this time? >>>>> > If that's the case, do >>>>> > you think Shelbys will continue to appreciate or are >>>>> > they in for a fall. >>>>> > These reason I ask is because I intend to own one. >>>>> > > Thanks, Shawn >>>>> > > Dec-28-05 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > A: When the car was on e bay the first time a >>>>> > fraudulent bidder placed a >>>>> > bid and I had to get it removed but not before the >>>>> > bidder hit (and exposed) >>>>> > the reserve for a long period of time. It >>>>> > > compromised the auction. The second time the >>>>> > auction ran the high bidder >>>>> > did not understand that I am NOT a dealer and, as >>>>> > such, could not offer him >>>>> > financing. It is now running for the third and, >>>>> > > what I hope to be, final time. The car is a super >>>>> > car & is as represented >>>>> > and the past auctions failures have nothing to do >>>>> > with the car. As far as my >>>>> > personal situation goes I am getting out of the >>>>> > > business for at least a year. I have many other >>>>> > (outside of Shelby cars) >>>>> > successful business interests and, as such, am >>>>> > focusing on those companies. >>>>> > Additionally, my wife and I are having a baby in >>>>> > > March and I want to be able to focus on that >>>>> > blessed event for at least >>>>> > the first twelve to eighteen months. I (personally) >>>>> > see the market in a >>>>> > beginning-stage free fall right now. I think that >>>>> > the >>>>> > > auction companies will try to carry and support >>>>> > the market place for >>>>> > awhile but I think that with the war, higher >>>>> > interest rates, home-building >>>>> > going down and more consumer debt then ever, that >>>>> > these >>>>> > > cars are beginning to adjust to realistic levels. >>>>> > I maybe wrong (wouldn't >>>>> > be the first time) and mine is truly an opinion from >>>>> > the inside looking out. >>>>> > I will still do some private, paid consultations >>>>> > > and higher end dollar deals I just won't be >>>>> > available to take every phone >>>>> > call or reply to every e mail. It has been a fun 25 >>>>> > (+) years in the Shelby >>>>> > marketplace. Stephen >>>>> > > >>>>> > > jon >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Quoting DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > - In a message dated 1/3/2006 7:40:47 PM Pacific >>>>> > Standard Time, >>>>> > info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com >>>>> > > - writes: >>>>> > > - >>>>> > > - > On 12/26/2005 10:51:13 AM, Stephen G. Becker >>>>> > (sbeckerone (AT) charter (DOT) net) >>>>> > > - > wrote: >>>>> > > - > >Hello Jim and Merry Christmas to you and your >>>>> > family!.... >>>>> > > - > > >>>>> > > - > >I am taking 2006 off from the Shelby cars as >>>>> > I have several things >>>>> > going >>>>> > > - > on, >>>>> > > - > >>>>> > > - >>>>> > > - Does this indicate that Stephen's sensing a >>>>> > (near-term) "top" in the >>>>> > market? >>>>> > > - >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>__________________________________________ >>>>>Yahoo! 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