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RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels

Discussion in 'Shelby Mustang List' started by James G Cowles, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. unless you have a VERY early 65 the wheels are 15 x6


    >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >Subject: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:42:29 -0600
    >
    >Does anyone know how the 65 - 350 KH 15x5 1/2 steel wheels perform/handle?
    >Im thinking about putting my KH steel wheels back on the 65-350 car.
    >Thanks
    >
    >jon
    >


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  2. What is considered early? Howard told me that my # 128 should have the 15 x 5 1/2 rims and that the change over occured in the low 200s with respect to the production dates and record keeping.

    personally though, I don't care about the wheel size...I just want to see if the car will corner better or make my turns easier at lower speeds. Im getting dirty looks from my neighbors when I turn
    real fast on the corners.

    jon




    Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:

    - unless you have a VERY early 65 the wheels are 15 x6
    -
    -
    - >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    - >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    - >Subject: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    - >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:42:29 -0600
    - >
    - >Does anyone know how the 65 - 350 KH 15x5 1/2 steel wheels perform/handle?
    - >Im thinking about putting my KH steel wheels back on the 65-350 car.
    - >Thanks
    - >
    - >jon
    - >
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  3. First 100 cars. I know 137 had 6 inch wheels from new/ what do you have
    on it now? Chrome reverse 15 x 10s?


    >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:23:59 -0600
    >
    >What is considered early? Howard told me that my # 128 should have the 15 x
    >5 1/2 rims and that the change over occured in the low 200s with respect to
    >the production dates and record keeping.
    >
    >personally though, I don't care about the wheel size...I just want to see
    >if the car will corner better or make my turns easier at lower speeds. Im
    >getting dirty looks from my neighbors when I turn
    >real fast on the corners.
    >
    >jon
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    >
    >- unless you have a VERY early 65 the wheels are 15 x6
    >-
    >-
    >- >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    >- >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >- >Subject: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >- >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:42:29 -0600
    >- >
    >- >Does anyone know how the 65 - 350 KH 15x5 1/2 steel wheels
    >perform/handle?
    >- >Im thinking about putting my KH steel wheels back on the 65-350 car.
    >- >Thanks
    >- >
    >- >jon
    >- >
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  4. Interesting.

    My #128 was recieved by Shelby on 3-25-65 which is about the same week that #195 was received on 3-20-65. #195 is known to have 15 x 5 1/2.
    If I remember correctly, the cars were never built by VIN number sequence.

    I have those American Torq Thrust rims on it now. The tires are a bit wide and the tires will scrubb the fenders when I turn into the corners hard. I dont know what the size of the Torq Thrusts are
    but I feel like trying something different.

    jon



    Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:

    - First 100 cars. I know 137 had 6 inch wheels from new/ what do you have
    - on it now? Chrome reverse 15 x 10s?
    -
    -
    - >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    - >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    - >Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    - >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:23:59 -0600
    - >
    - >What is considered early? Howard told me that my # 128 should have the 15 x
    - >5 1/2 rims and that the change over occured in the low 200s with respect to
    - >the production dates and record keeping.
    - >
    - >personally though, I don't care about the wheel size...I just want to see
    - >if the car will corner better or make my turns easier at lower speeds. Im
    - >getting dirty looks from my neighbors when I turn
    - >real fast on the corners.
    - >
    - >jon
    - >
    - >
    - >
    - >
    - >Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    - >
    - >- unless you have a VERY early 65 the wheels are 15 x6
    - >-
    - >-
    - >- >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    - >- >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    - >- >Subject: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    - >- >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:42:29 -0600
    - >- >
    - >- >Does anyone know how the 65 - 350 KH 15x5 1/2 steel wheels
    - >perform/handle?
    - >- >Im thinking about putting my KH steel wheels back on the 65-350 car.
    - >- >Thanks
    - >- >
    - >- >jon
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  5. we use 215/65/15 tires on the 6 in wheels, they should work fine


    >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:43:53 -0600
    >
    >Interesting.
    >
    >My #128 was recieved by Shelby on 3-25-65 which is about the same week that
    >#195 was received on 3-20-65. #195 is known to have 15 x 5 1/2.
    >If I remember correctly, the cars were never built by VIN number sequence.
    >
    >I have those American Torq Thrust rims on it now. The tires are a bit wide
    >and the tires will scrubb the fenders when I turn into the corners hard. I
    >dont know what the size of the Torq Thrusts are
    >but I feel like trying something different.
    >
    >jon
    >
    >
    >
    >Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    >
    >- First 100 cars. I know 137 had 6 inch wheels from new/ what do you
    >have
    >- on it now? Chrome reverse 15 x 10s?
    >-
    >-
    >- >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    >- >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >- >Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >- >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:23:59 -0600
    >- >
    >- >What is considered early? Howard told me that my # 128 should have the
    >15 x
    >- >5 1/2 rims and that the change over occured in the low 200s with respect
    >to
    >- >the production dates and record keeping.
    >- >
    >- >personally though, I don't care about the wheel size...I just want to
    >see
    >- >if the car will corner better or make my turns easier at lower speeds.
    >Im
    >- >getting dirty looks from my neighbors when I turn
    >- >real fast on the corners.
    >- >
    >- >jon
    >- >
    >- >
    >- >
    >- >
    >- >Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    >- >
    >- >- unless you have a VERY early 65 the wheels are 15 x6
    >- >-
    >- >-
    >- >- >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    >- >- >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >- >- >Subject: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >- >- >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:42:29 -0600
    >- >- >
    >- >- >Does anyone know how the 65 - 350 KH 15x5 1/2 steel wheels
    >- >perform/handle?
    >- >- >Im thinking about putting my KH steel wheels back on the 65-350 car.
    >- >- >Thanks
    >- >- >
    >- >- >jon
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  6. Kewl.

    Thanks!

    jon

    Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:

    - we use 215/65/15 tires on the 6 in wheels, they should work fine
    -
    -
    - >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    - >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    - >Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    - >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:43:53 -0600
    - >
    - >Interesting.
    - >
    - >My #128 was recieved by Shelby on 3-25-65 which is about the same week that
    - >#195 was received on 3-20-65. #195 is known to have 15 x 5 1/2.
    - >If I remember correctly, the cars were never built by VIN number sequence.
    - >
    - >I have those American Torq Thrust rims on it now. The tires are a bit wide
    - >and the tires will scrubb the fenders when I turn into the corners hard. I
    - >dont know what the size of the Torq Thrusts are
    - >but I feel like trying something different.
    - >
    - >jon
    - >
    - >
    - >
    - >Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    - >
    - >- First 100 cars. I know 137 had 6 inch wheels from new/ what do you
    - >have
    - >- on it now? Chrome reverse 15 x 10s?
    - >-
    - >-
    - >- >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    - >- >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    - >- >Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    - >- >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:23:59 -0600
    - >- >
    - >- >What is considered early? Howard told me that my # 128 should have the
    - >15 x
    - >- >5 1/2 rims and that the change over occured in the low 200s with respect
    - >to
    - >- >the production dates and record keeping.
    - >- >
    - >- >personally though, I don't care about the wheel size...I just want to
    - >see
    - >- >if the car will corner better or make my turns easier at lower speeds.
    - >Im
    - >- >getting dirty looks from my neighbors when I turn
    - >- >real fast on the corners.
    - >- >
    - >- >jon
    - >- >
    - >- >
    - >- >
    - >- >
    - >- >Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    - >- >
    - >- >- unless you have a VERY early 65 the wheels are 15 x6
    - >- >-
    - >- >-
    - >- >- >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    - >- >- >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    - >- >- >Subject: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    - >- >- >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:42:29 -0600
    - >- >- >
    - >- >- >Does anyone know how the 65 - 350 KH 15x5 1/2 steel wheels
    - >- >perform/handle?
    - >- >- >Im thinking about putting my KH steel wheels back on the 65-350 car.
    - >- >- >Thanks
    - >- >- >
    - >- >- >jon
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  7. Tom Kubler

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    Jim wrote: "... on it now? Chrome reverse 15 x 10s?"

    Sorry Jim, I know for a fact, he's using aluminum slots!

    Sorry Jon, couldn't resist...

    Tom
     
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hey guy, the original Torque Thrust R model wheels were exactly 0 offsett. The repos are approx. 1/2 inch offsett to the outside (positive). This will cause larger tires to rub. You can have a machine shop take 1/2 inch off the backside where the wheel bolts to the hub. This will enable some larger tires. In the old days a 550 x 15 fit perfectly. You had to roll the fender lips to get the 600 x 15's on the car. In modern sizes, a 245 x 60 R 15 should fit a 0 offsett wheel with only minor lip rolling on the front. A 235 will require no mods. If you drive slower in your neighborhood, the squealing will go away and the neighbors will not complain.......ever try to lick a Tootsie pop all the way to the stick? You always end up crunching into the good part. Driving a Shelby quickly with finess is an art form to be practiced to perfection. Watch out for the bad guys with the roof lights, they have a blue light special you don't want. SEE Y'ALL Lee
    >
    > From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    > Date: 2006/01/23 Mon PM 11:43:53 EST
    > To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    > Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >
    > Interesting.
    >
    > My #128 was recieved by Shelby on 3-25-65 which is about the same week that #195 was received on 3-20-65. #195 is known to have 15 x 5 1/2.
    > If I remember correctly, the cars were never built by VIN number sequence.
    >
    > I have those American Torq Thrust rims on it now. The tires are a bit wide and the tires will scrubb the fenders when I turn into the corners hard. I dont know what the size of the Torq Thrusts are
    > but I feel like trying something different.
    >
    > jon
    >
    >
    >
    > Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    >
    > - First 100 cars. I know 137 had 6 inch wheels from new/ what do you have
    > - on it now? Chrome reverse 15 x 10s?
    > -
    > -
    > - >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    > - >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    > - >Subject: RE: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    > - >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:23:59 -0600
    > - >
    > - >What is considered early? Howard told me that my # 128 should have the 15 x
    > - >5 1/2 rims and that the change over occured in the low 200s with respect to
    > - >the production dates and record keeping.
    > - >
    > - >personally though, I don't care about the wheel size...I just want to see
    > - >if the car will corner better or make my turns easier at lower speeds. Im
    > - >getting dirty looks from my neighbors when I turn
    > - >real fast on the corners.
    > - >
    > - >jon
    > - >
    > - >
    > - >
    > - >
    > - >Quoting James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>:
    > - >
    > - >- unless you have a VERY early 65 the wheels are 15 x6
    > - >-
    > - >-
    > - >- >From: jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net
    > - >- >To: Shelby List <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    > - >- >Subject: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    > - >- >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:42:29 -0600
    > - >- >
    > - >- >Does anyone know how the 65 - 350 KH 15x5 1/2 steel wheels
    > - >perform/handle?
    > - >- >Im thinking about putting my KH steel wheels back on the 65-350 car.
    > - >- >Thanks
    > - >- >
    > - >- >jon
    > - >- >
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  9. In a message dated 1/24/2006 6:34:01 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net writes:

    > You can have a machine shop take 1/2 inch off the backside where the wheel
    > bolts to the hub.


    I don't think you can do this with the "new" repops; I believe a club member
    up here mentioned that the current casting doesn't have the extra
    "meat"/thickness in the center section that the originals did, so if you machine down the
    current casting rims, the hub area ends up thin enough to raise safety
    issues.
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    That's good imput. My info is obviously dated. When Paradise Wheels did the repo wheels, he basically cut the back side and polished the rims. Then the wheels became available directly from American and we used to cut the backs. Y'all need to check this before you create a basic disaster senerio. THANKS
    >
    > From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
    > Date: 2006/01/24 Tue PM 09:37:08 EST
    > To: lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net, jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    > Subject: Re: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >
    > In a message dated 1/24/2006 6:34:01 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    > lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net writes:
    >
    > > You can have a machine shop take 1/2 inch off the backside where the wheel
    > > bolts to the hub.

    >
    > I don't think you can do this with the "new" repops; I believe a club member
    > up here mentioned that the current casting doesn't have the extra
    > "meat"/thickness in the center section that the originals did, so if you machine down the
    > current casting rims, the hub area ends up thin enough to raise safety
    > issues.
    >
    >
     
  11. I am not sure I would recoment machining off 1/2 in from the hub unless you
    are only going to use the wheels for looks. taking that much off could really
    weaken the wheel.

    bob
     
  12. #178 has 15x6 dated 2 /65. Anyone have the correct silver paint # for
    dupont, PPG or ?

    Russ
     
  13. Anyone got a good picture of the center and rim of these?... want to compare some rims I've got


    Jeff S

    -----Original Message-----
    >From: SHELBNUT (AT) aol (DOT) com
    >Sent: Jan 28, 2006 4:13 PM
    >To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    >Subject: Re: 65 -350 Steel Wheels
    >
    >#178 has 15x6 dated 2 /65. Anyone have the correct silver paint # for
    >dupont, PPG or ?
    >
    >Russ
    >
     
  14. 65 350 steel wheel

    Here is a picture of a steel wheel on a car that I restored. It was in the Shelby Museum up until its recent sale. The three hubcap mounting points is the first sign of a correct rim.
    David Randal
    www.comfortcarconnection.com
     
  15. Re: 65 350 steel wheel

    Thanks David ........looks like I had remembered.


    Have a set but without the cutouts.... guess that can be fixed ;)

    jeff S


    -----Original Message-----
    >From: David P Randal <dpran (AT) hctc (DOT) net>
    >Sent: Jan 28, 2006 5:48 PM
    >To: Shelby Mustang <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >Subject: 65 350 steel wheel
    >
    >Here is a picture of a steel wheel on a car that I restored. It was in the Shelby Museum up until its recent sale. The three hubcap mounting points is the first sign of a correct rim.
    >David Randal
    >www.comfortcarconnection.com
     

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