Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a painted surface?)

Well, I finally made it to a SAAC/Vegas event, & it WAS worth the
trip...especially since--after three national events' worth of *trying*--I finally got
Carroll's autograph on 003. We were "last in line", but it was worth the wait
(and the begging & pleading--AND thanks to everyone who helped & encouraged me
this time around) to watch him write "To 5S003" followed by his signature
along the driver's side of the hood. And since I've got a more correct hood to
use while restoring 003, this one's on its way to becoming "wall art"...but
probably not in the living room, and not right away....

Now, all I have to do is figure out how to protect that autograph (especially
for the 1-2 years before the resto starts), eh?

"My bad", but I didn't think far enough ahead to realize that I REALLY needed
to strip any wax off, and maybe even wet-sand the intended area. Now, I've
been warned that spraying clear over the waxed surface won't work--it won't
adhere (may "bead up"), and might damage the autograph as well. Best idea I've
got so far is to put a sheet of that clear (flexible) paint protection stuff
(that's usually put on the front of a car, leading edges of flaired fenders,
mirrors, etc) over it.

What other options can any of you think of?

Thanks,

Dave

 

Dave-
B4 U give up on the "clear" spray approach, I'd go to an artist's supply shop and purchase a can of artist's fixative. It's a clear spray that they use over watercolors and other artforms to preserve them. Then, I'd find a similar piece of automotive painted sheet metal or Fiberglas that has been waxed, close to what you have. Then use an indelible pen like CS uses. Sign your name, let it dry. Then follow the directions on the fixative can and see what happens. Remember, thin, light coats are better than thick, runny ones. Good Luck!
Regards,
Stan
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Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a painted surface?)


Well, I finally made it to a SAAC/Vegas event, & it WAS worth the trip...especially since--after three national events' worth of *trying*--I finally got Carroll's autograph on 003. We were "last in line", but it was worth the wait (and the begging & pleading--AND thanks to everyone who helped & encouraged me this time around) to watch him write "To 5S003" followed by his signature along the driver's side of the hood. And since I've got a more correct hood to use while restoring 003, this one's on its way to becoming "wall art"...but probably not in the living room, and not right away....

Now, all I have to do is figure out how to protect that autograph (especially for the 1-2 years before the resto starts), eh?

"My bad", but I didn't think far enough ahead to realize that I REALLY needed to strip any wax off, and maybe even wet-sand the intended area. Now, I've been warned that spraying clear over the waxed surface won't work--it won't adhere (may "bead up"), and might damage the autograph as well. Best idea I've got so far is to put a sheet of that clear (flexible) paint protection stuff (that's usually put on the front of a car, leading edges of flaired fenders, mirrors, etc) over it.

What other options can any of you think of?

Thanks,

Dave

 

I think your idea of the "clear bra" stuff is the best. I have the 3M film on my cars and it is really, really tough and quite clear. I think they call it X-Pel...try a Google search. Oh, and don't try to do it yourself, let the guys that do it everyday put it on. There are definitely some tricks involved.

Colin
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To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a painted surface?)


Well, I finally made it to a SAAC/Vegas event, & it WAS worth the trip...especially since--after three national events' worth of *trying*--I finally got Carroll's autograph on 003. We were "last in line", but it was worth the wait (and the begging & pleading--AND thanks to everyone who helped & encouraged me this time around) to watch him write "To 5S003" followed by his signature along the driver's side of the hood. And since I've got a more correct hood to use while restoring 003, this one's on its way to becoming "wall art"...but probably not in the living room, and not right away....

Now, all I have to do is figure out how to protect that autograph (especially for the 1-2 years before the resto starts), eh?

"My bad", but I didn't think far enough ahead to realize that I REALLY needed to strip any wax off, and maybe even wet-sand the intended area. Now, I've been warned that spraying clear over the waxed surface won't work--it won't adhere (may "bead up"), and might damage the autograph as well. Best idea I've got so far is to put a sheet of that clear (flexible) paint protection stuff (that's usually put on the front of a car, leading edges of flaired fenders, mirrors, etc) over it.

What other options can any of you think of?

Thanks,

Dave

 

they use that on the leading edges of airplane wings so maybe check in that
industry for someone that stocks/installs


>From: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
>Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
>To: <DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com>,<shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
>Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a
>painted surface?)
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:12:06 -0600
>
>I think your idea of the "clear bra" stuff is the best. I have the 3M film
>on my cars and it is really, really tough and quite clear. I think they
>call it X-Pel...try a Google search. Oh, and don't try to do it yourself,
>let the guys that do it everyday put it on. There are definitely some
>tricks involved.
>
>Colin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
> To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a
>painted surface?)
>
>
> Well, I finally made it to a SAAC/Vegas event, & it WAS worth the
>trip...especially since--after three national events' worth of *trying*--I
>finally got Carroll's autograph on 003. We were "last in line", but it was
>worth the wait (and the begging & pleading--AND thanks to everyone who
>helped & encouraged me this time around) to watch him write "To 5S003"
>followed by his signature along the driver's side of the hood. And since
>I've got a more correct hood to use while restoring 003, this one's on its
>way to becoming "wall art"...but probably not in the living room, and not
>right away....
>
> Now, all I have to do is figure out how to protect that autograph
>(especially for the 1-2 years before the resto starts), eh?
>
> "My bad", but I didn't think far enough ahead to realize that I REALLY
>needed to strip any wax off, and maybe even wet-sand the intended area.
>Now, I've been warned that spraying clear over the waxed surface won't
>work--it won't adhere (may "bead up"), and might damage the autograph as
>well. Best idea I've got so far is to put a sheet of that clear (flexible)
>paint protection stuff (that's usually put on the front of a car, leading
>edges of flaired fenders, mirrors, etc) over it.
>
> What other options can any of you think of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave

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they use that on the leading edges of airplane wings so maybe check in that
industry for someone that stocks/installs


>From: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
>Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
>To: <DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com>,<shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
>Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a
>painted surface?)
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:12:06 -0600
>
>I think your idea of the "clear bra" stuff is the best. I have the 3M film
>on my cars and it is really, really tough and quite clear. I think they
>call it X-Pel...try a Google search. Oh, and don't try to do it yourself,
>let the guys that do it everyday put it on. There are definitely some
>tricks involved.
>
>Colin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
> To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a
>painted surface?)
>
>
> Well, I finally made it to a SAAC/Vegas event, & it WAS worth the
>trip...especially since--after three national events' worth of *trying*--I
>finally got Carroll's autograph on 003. We were "last in line", but it was
>worth the wait (and the begging & pleading--AND thanks to everyone who
>helped & encouraged me this time around) to watch him write "To 5S003"
>followed by his signature along the driver's side of the hood. And since
>I've got a more correct hood to use while restoring 003, this one's on its
>way to becoming "wall art"...but probably not in the living room, and not
>right away....
>
> Now, all I have to do is figure out how to protect that autograph
>(especially for the 1-2 years before the resto starts), eh?
>
> "My bad", but I didn't think far enough ahead to realize that I REALLY
>needed to strip any wax off, and maybe even wet-sand the intended area.
>Now, I've been warned that spraying clear over the waxed surface won't
>work--it won't adhere (may "bead up"), and might damage the autograph as
>well. Best idea I've got so far is to put a sheet of that clear (flexible)
>paint protection stuff (that's usually put on the front of a car, leading
>edges of flaired fenders, mirrors, etc) over it.
>
> What other options can any of you think of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave

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they use that on the leading edges of airplane wings so maybe check in that
industry for someone that stocks/installs


>From: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
>Reply-To: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
>To: <DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com>,<shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
>Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a
>painted surface?)
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:12:06 -0600
>
>I think your idea of the "clear bra" stuff is the best. I have the 3M film
>on my cars and it is really, really tough and quite clear. I think they
>call it X-Pel...try a Google search. Oh, and don't try to do it yourself,
>let the guys that do it everyday put it on. There are definitely some
>tricks involved.
>
>Colin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
> To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a
>painted surface?)
>
>
> Well, I finally made it to a SAAC/Vegas event, & it WAS worth the
>trip...especially since--after three national events' worth of *trying*--I
>finally got Carroll's autograph on 003. We were "last in line", but it was
>worth the wait (and the begging & pleading--AND thanks to everyone who
>helped & encouraged me this time around) to watch him write "To 5S003"
>followed by his signature along the driver's side of the hood. And since
>I've got a more correct hood to use while restoring 003, this one's on its
>way to becoming "wall art"...but probably not in the living room, and not
>right away....
>
> Now, all I have to do is figure out how to protect that autograph
>(especially for the 1-2 years before the resto starts), eh?
>
> "My bad", but I didn't think far enough ahead to realize that I REALLY
>needed to strip any wax off, and maybe even wet-sand the intended area.
>Now, I've been warned that spraying clear over the waxed surface won't
>work--it won't adhere (may "bead up"), and might damage the autograph as
>well. Best idea I've got so far is to put a sheet of that clear (flexible)
>paint protection stuff (that's usually put on the front of a car, leading
>edges of flaired fenders, mirrors, etc) over it.
>
> What other options can any of you think of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave

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In a message dated 3/1/2006 2:12:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com writes:

> I think your idea of the "clear bra" stuff is the best. I have the 3M film
> on my cars and it is really, really tough and quite clear. I think they call
> it X-Pel...try a Google search. Oh, and don't try to do it yourself, let the
> guys that do it everyday put it on. There are definitely some tricks
> involved.
>

Thanks for the added details about the stuff; I'd forgot it's a 3M
product...and it's NOT something I'd want to learn about applying on my own, not even on
my daily driver.

And the light finally came on (again)--while I've been thinking about just
covering the driver's side (white to the left of the LeMans stripes) of the
hood, maybe I should have the entire surface done? That way, "no line" and it'd
have a consistent reflective quality?

I've heard that the stuff "yellows" over time, but I'm thinking that's UV
effect, and the hood's rarely gonna be out in the sunlight; mostly garaged or in
a closed trailer while it's on the car, and hanging on the shop (or basement
rec room) wall after that.

Dave

 

I've had the XPel product on my 289 Cobra for 2 years. The car spends plenty of time in the sun, and it is black. Done 3 long distance road rallyes (Copperstate 1000 for instance), and absolutely abused the stuff. No damage, no yellowing, looks perfect and is barely noticeable unless you just pick up the edge. If you laid it from the stripe out to the edges of the hood and wrapped it under a little, you'd never see it - esp. on white!

Like I said, I have it on 2 Cobras, 3 daily drivers, and my Lotus Elise. Great stuff - saved lots of paint work I am sure. Not cheap, but, better than painting or in your case waiting in line again!

Colin
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To: colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a painted surface?)


In a message dated 3/1/2006 2:12:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com writes:


I think your idea of the "clear bra" stuff is the best. I have the 3M film on my cars and it is really, really tough and quite clear. I think they call it X-Pel...try a Google search. Oh, and don't try to do it yourself, let the guys that do it everyday put it on. There are definitely some tricks involved.



Thanks for the added details about the stuff; I'd forgot it's a 3M product...and it's NOT something I'd want to learn about applying on my own, not even on my daily driver.

And the light finally came on (again)--while I've been thinking about just covering the driver's side (white to the left of the LeMans stripes) of the hood, maybe I should have the entire surface done? That way, "no line" and it'd have a consistent reflective quality?

I've heard that the stuff "yellows" over time, but I'm thinking that's UV effect, and the hood's rarely gonna be out in the sunlight; mostly garaged or in a closed trailer while it's on the car, and hanging on the shop (or basement rec room) wall after that.

Dave

 

FWIW, I've used a similar 3M product sold as INVINCA-SHIELD (home office out of Wilkesboro, NC). Did the whole front end of my wife's MINI Cooper S and the leading edge of my F250 SD. IMHO, while I had minimal problems with my installations, large expanses like a hood would be quite a challenge and best left to a professional.
Check out the web-site: www.invinca-shield.com.
Regards, Stan
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Comer
To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a painted surface?)


I've had the XPel product on my 289 Cobra for 2 years. The car spends plenty of time in the sun, and it is black. Done 3 long distance road rallyes (Copperstate 1000 for instance), and absolutely abused the stuff. No damage, no yellowing, looks perfect and is barely noticeable unless you just pick up the edge. If you laid it from the stripe out to the edges of the hood and wrapped it under a little, you'd never see it - esp. on white!

Like I said, I have it on 2 Cobras, 3 daily drivers, and my Lotus Elise. Great stuff - saved lots of paint work I am sure. Not cheap, but, better than painting or in your case waiting in line again!

Colin
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From: DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com
To: colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Las Vegas (& a question--how to protect an autograph on a painted surface?)


In a message dated 3/1/2006 2:12:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com writes:


I think your idea of the "clear bra" stuff is the best. I have the 3M film on my cars and it is really, really tough and quite clear. I think they call it X-Pel...try a Google search. Oh, and don't try to do it yourself, let the guys that do it everyday put it on. There are definitely some tricks involved.



Thanks for the added details about the stuff; I'd forgot it's a 3M product...and it's NOT something I'd want to learn about applying on my own, not even on my daily driver.

And the light finally came on (again)--while I've been thinking about just covering the driver's side (white to the left of the LeMans stripes) of the hood, maybe I should have the entire surface done? That way, "no line" and it'd have a consistent reflective quality?

I've heard that the stuff "yellows" over time, but I'm thinking that's UV effect, and the hood's rarely gonna be out in the sunlight; mostly garaged or in a closed trailer while it's on the car, and hanging on the shop (or basement rec room) wall after that.

Dave

 

In a message dated 3/1/2006 6:38:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com writes:


Thanks for the added details about the stuff; I'd forgot it's a 3M
product...and it's NOT something I'd want to learn about applying on my own, not even
on my daily driver.

And the light finally came on (again)--while I've been thinking about just
covering the driver's side (white to the left of the LeMans stripes) of the
hood, maybe I should have the entire surface done? That way, "no line" and
it'd have a consistent reflective quality?

I've heard that the stuff "yellows" over time, but I'm thinking that's UV
effect, and the hood's rarely gonna be out in the sunlight; mostly garaged or
in a closed trailer while it's on the car, and hanging on the shop (or
basement rec room) wall after that.

Dave


Dave,

I didn't realize, that you were at Vegas. Sorry, we didn't meet. My wife (
Ann ) and
I always attend the event. We had a small display, with our "Orlando
Mustang" Banner,
on the side of our 97 Ford P/up.

I did get to meet Lee from Dallas, and of course Jim Elsmore, from Reno.

When, Mr Shelby was autographing your hood, I was attempting to get a good
photo
of him. I did get some close up shots, while he was at the signing table.

Pete Geisler
Orlando Mustang
407 688 1966