The '66 needs headers, and I'm going to have them ceramic coated-- question is, would satin black or satin silver be a more appropriate to a unmolested exhaust look? If there's a better color/finish please pipe in. I'm looking at Jet-Hot or Airborn Coatings (could be one and the same in Oklahoma City). I've found a couple of services advertising on-line they'd do it for $180, but I've not known any testimonies as to their long-term durability. Any comments on particularly good or bad experiences? Tom Kubler 6s296 someone has to have the ugliest car
In a message dated 3/5/2006 10:45:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com writes: > The '66 needs headers, and I'm going to have them ceramic coated-- question > is, would satin black or satin silver be a more appropriate to a unmolested > exhaust look? Tom, I had the tri-y's for 1261 ceramic coated about 10 yrs ago, and the good news is, they've held up great; near-perfect. The problem I had with the ceramic coating was that it seemed (to me, anyway) to be much too *bright* in an otherwise stock-looking engine bay. I ended up brushing another finish over the ceramic; it was a product that used to "always" advertise in Hemmings--Eastwood, I think--in a dark gray. OTOH, I didn't know what color the tri-y's were, originally. Dave
Tom, I have done some testing of samples from coating companies and have found Cradin Industries in Boerne, Texas to do the best Job. I would take samples from as many coating companies on 2x4 inch metal cards and heat and bend them to see if it would crack or delaminate. Cardin's was the only one that would not crack or delaminate. Here is their link. http://www.cradin.com/ They also have other performance coatings that I would recommend. I will be placing some of the articles that I have written for Muscle Car Enthusiast on my website and one of them will about performance coatings. I think you will find it informative. Best regards, David Randal Randal's Restorations Inc. www.Comfortcarconnection.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Kubler To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Header Coating The '66 needs headers, and I'm going to have them ceramic coated-- question is, would satin black or satin silver be a more appropriate to a unmolested exhaust look? If there's a better color/finish please pipe in. I'm looking at Jet-Hot or Airborn Coatings (could be one and the same in Oklahoma City). I've found a couple of services advertising on-line they'd do it for $180, but I've not known any testimonies as to their long-term durability. Any comments on particularly good or bad experiences? Tom Kubler 6s296 someone has to have the ugliest car
I'd vote for the satin black finish. Where are you getting the headers from? Keep us posted on the fit & overall quality. I've found the Patriot headers vary a lot in the fit dept. I bet there are a few of with ''66 GT-350's getting used frequently enough to be in the running for the "ugliest car" prize. BTW, what is the prize for the "most used and still running" GT-350? Z. Ray 6s1117
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Z. Ray Richter wrote: > I bet there are a few of with ''66 GT-350's getting used frequently enough to > be in the running for the "ugliest car" prize. I am pretty sure we will be a shoein with our '68 at SAAC 31. > BTW, what is the prize for the "most used and still running" GT-350? I dunno, but our '68 was my daily driver when I was in college. It is pretty much retired to autocrosses and shows these days. Calvin http://hamptonroadsrotaryclub.com/ <<--our local club http://www.racecarstuff.com <<--my blog http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcalvin767 <<--my ebay stuff
In a message dated 3/5/06 10:45:02, tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com writes: << I'm looking at Jet-Hot or Airborn Coatings (could be one and the same in Oklahoma City). I've found a couple of services advertising on-line they'd do it for $180, but I've not known any testimonies as to their long-term durability. Any comments on particularly good or bad experiences? >> >>>One of my friends, Chuck Engles in OKC, has used Airborn Coatings and has been quite happy with them, I think. Mike
In a message dated 3/6/2006 10:14:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, MikeLDrew (AT) aol (DOT) com writes: In a message dated 3/5/06 10:45:02, tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com writes: << I'm looking at Jet-Hot or Airborn Coatings (could be one and the same in Oklahoma City). I've found a couple of services advertising on-line they'd do it for $180, but I've not known any testimonies as to their long-term durability. Any comments on particularly good or bad experiences? >> >>>One of my friends, Chuck Engles in OKC, has used Airborn Coatings and has been quite happy with them, I think. Mike Guys, We've used Jet-Hot from time to time with no problems whatsoever. It used to be available in just the "shiny" coating, but I think that that's no longer the case, with more alternatives available. Mike Heroy
Please don't think I am bashing Jet Hot, but I was very involved in racing and hot rods in my prior life, and we used Jet Hot a LOT. I would guess to the tune of $5k a month or better. We started having problems with the coatings, and then had the "big" problem when we lost a motor from their super-duper super-expensive coating came off of our pipes like potato chips, HUGE flakes. Sucked through the turbos, destroying them (at $2k each), and went through the motor trashing it. It was a Callaway motor that was not cheap. This was also the 3rd time they coated these pipes to get them right. I didn't ask them to pay for damages, I just wanted the $1500 I paid for this coating process back. Their response was that they would not refund my money UNLESS they could have all the parts back to strip off the coating. Like I was trying to steal the coating! I refused, because they had already sandblasted our one-off parts 3 times and they were to the point that one more blasting would ruin them. To me, the true test of a company is not how their product performs or their price point. It is how they handle a problem when one arises, as it always will with any business. In my opinion, Jet-Hot failed this test by basically telling one of their best customers to go fly a kite the FIRST time there was a problem. I have had coatings from Classic Coatings that did not work as well (a very small percentage). I called them immediately, and James has driven down to my shop, picked up the parts, and repaired them at no cost to me. That, to me, is all a customer can ask for and the right way to do business. FWIW, I have also used Embee Coatings in California and also had very positive results. All this falls under the "just my $.02" heading. Street value: Less than $.01. LOL Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: MHeroy (AT) aol (DOT) com To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: Header Coating In a message dated 3/6/2006 10:14:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, MikeLDrew (AT) aol (DOT) com writes: In a message dated 3/5/06 10:45:02, tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com writes: << I'm looking at Jet-Hot or Airborn Coatings (could be one and the same in Oklahoma City). I've found a couple of services advertising on-line they'd do it for $180, but I've not known any testimonies as to their long-term durability. Any comments on particularly good or bad experiences? >> >>>One of my friends, Chuck Engles in OKC, has used Airborn Coatings and has been quite happy with them, I think. Mike Guys, We've used Jet-Hot from time to time with no problems whatsoever. It used to be available in just the "shiny" coating, but I think that that's no longer the case, with more alternatives available. Mike Heroy
I have used headers done by airborne coatings on my race car for years and they work great, it does not come off. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Kubler To: shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:44 PM Subject: Header Coating The '66 needs headers, and I'm going to have them ceramic coated-- question is, would satin black or satin silver be a more appropriate to a unmolested exhaust look? If there's a better color/finish please pipe in. I'm looking at Jet-Hot or Airborn Coatings (could be one and the same in Oklahoma City). I've found a couple of services advertising on-line they'd do it for $180, but I've not known any testimonies as to their long-term durability. Any comments on particularly good or bad experiences? Tom Kubler 6s296 someone has to have the ugliest car
