Car & Gun Lovers, Great American freedoms, includes right to bear arms, (limited in New York City) and driving your gas-gusslin Big Block Fords til the tank runs dry. We don't worry ' bout no concealed permit, in OSTEEN, FLORIDA. Everyone of our neighbors have a LEGAL sawed off, hanging from the rack in the back of their Ford Truck. Of course, to see it, you have to look past the dirt from 4 wheelin, the bumper stickers and REBEL flag. Our current project in the shop, is a 4 wheel Drive KR Shelby, with Dual Gun Racks, Hydralics, Neons and Bullet Proof Glass. This is our own Tribute Edition, Serial # 001, for the unique Miami Market area. Why I bet, in Georgia, Lee Mathias carries a side mount in the holster, still. They need protection from want-a-bee Moon Shine robbers. Pistol Pete Geisler Orlando Mustang 407 688 1966 In a message dated 3/6/2006 6:04:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com writes: Kenny, (With apologies to all for turning this into an NRA chat room), I know the restrictions you live with in NY. Years ago, we purchased a pistol from the then great Abercrombie & Fitch while visiting in NYC. They had to send it to our local dealer for us. It's not easy to obtain a CCWP here in NC. It takes months. We have to take hours of instruction, show proficiency on the range and pass a written test, then pay $100 for a 5 yr. license (renewable for another $100), get fingerprinted, have records checked w/ the FBI, SBI, state mental institutions and, if denied, forfeit the $100. I believe Pete Geisler and the folks down in FL have it a little easier. Still, it's worth the hassle. I've never had to draw my weapon on anyone and I hope I never have to. Have come close, tho. We just retired after 28 years in the jewelry business. Great feeling to make it w/o incident. Regards, Stan
Hey Guys, I always carry here in Maryland, with a permit. Lifetime NRA member. I always carry in other states and Saac events. I dont care if they like it or not. In the hot summer i leave it my my truck or Shelby most of the time. My carry is a Colt officers model Cal- 45 or my Sig Cal-357..depends where im going. I would rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6.... Cevon.... .. From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> To: <Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com>, <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com>, <ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com>, <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>, <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Import Cruising Date sent: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:01:07 -0500 Kenny, (With apologies to all for turning this into an NRA chat room), I know the restrictions you live with in NY. Years ago, we purchased a pistol from the then great Abercrombie & Fitch while visiting in NYC. They had to send it to our local dealer for us. It's not easy to obtain a CCWP here in NC. It takes months. We have to take hours of instruction, show proficiency on the range and pass a written test, then pay $100 for a 5 yr. license (renewable for another $100), get fingerprinted, have records checked w/ the FBI, SBI, state mental institutions and, if denied, forfeit the $100. I believe Pete Geisler and the folks down in FL have it a little easier. Still, it's worth the hassle. I've never had to draw my weapon on anyone and I hope I never have to. Have come close, tho. We just retired after 28 years in the jewelry business. Great feeling to make it w/o incident. Regards, Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com To: SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com ; speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com ; ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com ; jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Import Cruising Stan: Just to point out the differences between living in a metro area, and more of a suburban area, he re in NYC, you practically have to know the Mayor in order to get a concealled carry permit. The re quirements are ridiculous, and they make it virtually impossible for a civilian to get one, I know, I've tried. Also since 9-11 they have really tightened up on pistol permits in general, because th ey had like 10,000 additional applications filed right after it happened. The best I could do was to be granted a "residence premise" permit which luckily I applied for ye ars before 9-11. Kenny
Stan, My family ran a jewelry business in downtown Asheville, North Carolina for almost 60 years. We had pistols and rifles strategically located all over that store. We never had to shoot any scumbags but we sure chased a few through the streets of our mountain town. Now that I think about it in my late fifties we were down right dangerous. Any good stories that you can share? Joe Bright. ----- Original Message ----- From: STAN SIMM To: Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com ; speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com ; ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com ; jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: Re: Import Cruising Kenny, (With apologies to all for turning this into an NRA chat room), I know the restrictions you live with in NY. Years ago, we purchased a pistol from the then great Abercrombie & Fitch while visiting in NYC. They had to send it to our local dealer for us. It's not easy to obtain a CCWP here in NC. It takes months. We have to take hours of instruction, show proficiency on the range and pass a written test, then pay $100 for a 5 yr. license (renewable for another $100), get fingerprinted, have records checked w/ the FBI, SBI, state mental institutions and, if denied, forfeit the $100. I believe Pete Geisler and the folks down in FL have it a little easier. Still, it's worth the hassle. I've never had to draw my weapon on anyone and I hope I never have to. Have come close, tho. We just retired after 28 years in the jewelry business. Great feeling to make it w/o incident. Regards, Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com To: SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com ; speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com ; ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com ; jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Import Cruising Stan: Just to point out the differences between living in a metro area, and more of a suburban area, here in NYC, you practically have to know the Mayor in order to get a concealled carry permit. The requirements are ridiculous, and they make it virtually impossible for a civilian to get one, I know, I've tried. Also since 9-11 they have really tightened up on pistol permits in general, because they had like 10,000 additional applications filed right after it happened. The best I could do was to be granted a "residence premise" permit which luckily I applied for years before 9-11. Kenny
In a message dated 3/7/2006 7:28:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, cmclean (AT) rbhnrc (DOT) usda.gov writes: > In the hot summer i leave it my my truck > or Shelby most of the time. Just a caution--- Multiple risks leaving a firearm in a vehicle; car prowls focus on (1) money (2) weapons (3) other/pawnable items. A gun left in a vehicle is at risk of becoming another criminals' weapon.
Thank God for the real Americans that still stand up for something in this country. "I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6." Amen, Cevon, Amen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cevon Mclean" <cmclean (AT) rbhnrc (DOT) usda.gov> To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Import Cruising > Hey Guys, > I always carry here in Maryland, with a permit. Lifetime NRA > member. I always carry in other states and Saac events. I dont > care if they like it or not. In the hot summer i leave it my my truck > or Shelby most of the time. My carry is a Colt officers model Cal- > 45 or my Sig Cal-357..depends where im going. I would rather be > tried by 12 then carried by 6.... > Cevon.... > > . From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> > To: <Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com>, <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com>, > <ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com>, > <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>, <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> > Subject: Re: Import Cruising > Date sent: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:01:07 -0500 > > Kenny, > (With apologies to all for turning this into an NRA chat room), I know > the restrictions you live with in NY. Years ago, we purchased a pistol > from the then great Abercrombie & Fitch while visiting in NYC. They had > to send it to our local dealer for us. > It's not easy to obtain a CCWP here in NC. It takes months. We have to > take hours of instruction, show proficiency on the range and pass a > written test, then pay $100 for a 5 yr. license (renewable for another > $100), get fingerprinted, have records checked w/ the FBI, SBI, state > mental > institutions and, if denied, forfeit the $100. > I believe Pete Geisler and the folks down in FL have it a little easier. > Still, it's worth the hassle. I've never had to draw my weapon on anyone > and I hope I never have to. Have come close, tho. We just retired after > 28 years in the jewelry business. Great feeling to make it w/o incident. > Regards, Stan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com > To: SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com ; speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com ; ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com ; > jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: Import Cruising > > > Stan: > > Just to point out the differences between living in a metro area, and > more of a suburban area, he > re in NYC, you practically have to know the Mayor in order to get a > concealled carry permit. The re > quirements are ridiculous, and they make it virtually impossible for a > civilian to get one, I know, > I've tried. Also since 9-11 they have really tightened up on pistol > permits in general, because th > ey had like 10,000 additional applications filed right after it happened. > The best I could do was to be granted a "residence premise" permit which > luckily I applied for ye > ars before 9-11. > > Kenny >
guns Cevon, a little paranoid are we??????? Rob At 05:01 PM 3/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >. I always carry in other states and Saac events. I dont >> care if they like it or not. >> Cevon.... >>
Re: guns All I know is Cevon has my back at SAAC 31. LOL Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Zanussi" <rzanussi (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> To: <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: guns > Cevon, a little paranoid are we??????? > > Rob > > > At 05:01 PM 3/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: >>. I always carry in other states and Saac events. I dont >>> care if they like it or not. >>> Cevon.... >>> > > >
Re: guns When driving or transporting Shelbys, we've all got a right to be paranoid! Regards, Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Zanussi" <rzanussi (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> To: <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: guns > Cevon, a little paranoid are we??????? > > Rob > > > At 05:01 PM 3/7/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >. I always carry in other states and Saac events. I dont > >> care if they like it or not. > >> Cevon.... > >> > >
It is interesting that a lot of car enthusiests are also into guns. I have gone shooting with many of my car enthusiest friends over the years. I'm sure the ratio is much higher than many other hobbies. Pete >From: "Joe Bright" <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> >To: <cmclean (AT) rbhnrc (DOT) usda.gov> >CC: "Shelby" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >Subject: Re: Import Cruising >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:01:52 -0500 > >Thank God for the real Americans that still stand up for something in this >country. "I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6." Amen, Cevon, Amen. >----- Original Message ----- From: "Cevon Mclean" <cmclean (AT) rbhnrc (DOT) usda.gov> >To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:35 AM >Subject: Re: Import Cruising > > >>Hey Guys, >>I always carry here in Maryland, with a permit. Lifetime NRA >>member. I always carry in other states and Saac events. I dont >>care if they like it or not. In the hot summer i leave it my my truck >>or Shelby most of the time. My carry is a Colt officers model Cal- >>45 or my Sig Cal-357..depends where im going. I would rather be >>tried by 12 then carried by 6.... >>Cevon.... >> >>. From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> >>To: <Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com>, <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com>, >><ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com>, >> <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>, <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>Subject: Re: Import Cruising >>Date sent: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:01:07 -0500 >> >>Kenny, >> (With apologies to all for turning this into an NRA chat room), I know >>the restrictions you live with in NY. Years ago, we purchased a pistol >>from the then great Abercrombie & Fitch while visiting in NYC. They had >>to send it to our local dealer for us. >> It's not easy to obtain a CCWP here in NC. It takes months. We have to >>take hours of instruction, show proficiency on the range and pass a >>written test, then pay $100 for a 5 yr. license (renewable for another >>$100), get fingerprinted, have records checked w/ the FBI, SBI, state >>mental >>institutions and, if denied, forfeit the $100. >> I believe Pete Geisler and the folks down in FL have it a little easier. >>Still, it's worth the hassle. I've never had to draw my weapon on anyone >>and I hope I never have to. Have come close, tho. We just retired after >>28 years in the jewelry business. Great feeling to make it w/o incident. >>Regards, Stan >> ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com >> To: SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com ; speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com ; ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com ; >>jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com >> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Import Cruising >> >> >> Stan: >> >> Just to point out the differences between living in a metro area, and >>more of a suburban area, he >>re in NYC, you practically have to know the Mayor in order to get a >>concealled carry permit. The re >>quirements are ridiculous, and they make it virtually impossible for a >>civilian to get one, I know, >>I've tried. Also since 9-11 they have really tightened up on pistol >>permits in general, because th >>ey had like 10,000 additional applications filed right after it happened. >> The best I could do was to be granted a "residence premise" permit which >>luckily I applied for ye >>ars before 9-11. >> >> Kenny >> > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Except hunting enthusiasts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Johnson" <peterj_251 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> To: <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com>; <cmclean (AT) rbhnrc (DOT) usda.gov> Cc: <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Import Cruising > It is interesting that a lot of car enthusiests are also into guns. I have > gone shooting with many of my car enthusiest friends over the years. I'm > sure the ratio is much higher than many other hobbies. > Pete > > >>From: "Joe Bright" <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> >>To: <cmclean (AT) rbhnrc (DOT) usda.gov> >>CC: "Shelby" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>Subject: Re: Import Cruising >>Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:01:52 -0500 >> >>Thank God for the real Americans that still stand up for something in this >>country. "I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6." Amen, Cevon, Amen. >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Cevon Mclean" >><cmclean (AT) rbhnrc (DOT) usda.gov> >>To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:35 AM >>Subject: Re: Import Cruising >> >> >>>Hey Guys, >>>I always carry here in Maryland, with a permit. Lifetime NRA >>>member. I always carry in other states and Saac events. I dont >>>care if they like it or not. In the hot summer i leave it my my truck >>>or Shelby most of the time. My carry is a Colt officers model Cal- >>>45 or my Sig Cal-357..depends where im going. I would rather be >>>tried by 12 then carried by 6.... >>>Cevon.... >>> >>>. From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> >>>To: <Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com>, <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com>, >>><ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com>, >>> <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>, <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>>Subject: Re: Import Cruising >>>Date sent: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:01:07 -0500 >>> >>>Kenny, >>> (With apologies to all for turning this into an NRA chat room), I know >>> the restrictions you live with in NY. Years ago, we purchased a pistol >>> from the then great Abercrombie & Fitch while visiting in NYC. They had >>> to send it to our local dealer for us. >>> It's not easy to obtain a CCWP here in NC. It takes months. We have to >>> take hours of instruction, show proficiency on the range and pass a >>> written test, then pay $100 for a 5 yr. license (renewable for another >>> $100), get fingerprinted, have records checked w/ the FBI, SBI, state >>> mental >>>institutions and, if denied, forfeit the $100. >>> I believe Pete Geisler and the folks down in FL have it a little >>> easier. Still, it's worth the hassle. I've never had to draw my weapon >>> on anyone and I hope I never have to. Have come close, tho. We just >>> retired after 28 years in the jewelry business. Great feeling to make it >>> w/o incident. >>>Regards, Stan >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com >>> To: SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com ; speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com ; ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com ; >>> jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net ; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com >>> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: Import Cruising >>> >>> >>> Stan: >>> >>> Just to point out the differences between living in a metro area, and >>> more of a suburban area, he >>>re in NYC, you practically have to know the Mayor in order to get a >>>concealled carry permit. The re >>>quirements are ridiculous, and they make it virtually impossible for a >>>civilian to get one, I know, >>>I've tried. Also since 9-11 they have really tightened up on pistol >>>permits in general, because th >>>ey had like 10,000 additional applications filed right after it happened. >>> The best I could do was to be granted a "residence premise" permit >>> which luckily I applied for ye >>>ars before 9-11. >>> >>> Kenny >>> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >
Re: Re: Import Cruising Nice try Pete, that was when I lived in Kennesaw and the LAW said each individual was required to own a gun. The local civil war store, Wild Man's, was run by a guy named Dent Meyers. He wore two pistols in holsters and two banderleros (sp) of rounds all the time. He was a racist, wife beater , drove a black Gremlin and black Trans AM with a big conferderate flag on the hood.He was generally well liked. Favorite bumper sticker here was "Forget the dog, the owner is armed" I think Wild Man is still alive, the law is in effect but not enforced. As for me, I had a 22 long rifle that we used at the Mustang Farm to plink Chevy hubcaps off the barbed wire fence. I currently do not own a gun, but my 15 year old Georgia raised son has five or six. He is out in the garage getting the engine ready to install in his Christmas present, a 66 coupe. Do you need a permit for a pistol in a holster in plain sight, it is not concealed? See Ya in Pensacola. > > From: ORLMUST (AT) aol (DOT) com > Date: 2006/03/07 Tue AM 09:59:41 EST > To: SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com, Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com, speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com, jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, > shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com > Subject: Re: Import Cruising > > > Car & Gun Lovers, > > Great American freedoms, includes right to bear arms, (limited in New York > City) and > driving your gas-gusslin Big Block Fords til the tank runs dry. > > We don't worry ' bout no concealed permit, in OSTEEN, FLORIDA. Everyone > of our neighbors have a LEGAL sawed off, hanging from the rack in the back > of their > Ford Truck. Of course, to see it, you have to look past the dirt from 4 > wheelin, the > bumper stickers and REBEL flag. > > Our current project in the shop, is a 4 wheel Drive KR Shelby, with Dual Gun > Racks, > Hydralics, Neons and Bullet Proof Glass. This is our own Tribute Edition, > Serial # 001, > for the unique Miami Market area. > > Why I bet, in Georgia, Lee Mathias carries a side mount in the holster, > still. They > need protection from want-a-bee Moon Shine robbers. > > Pistol Pete Geisler > Orlando Mustang > 407 688 1966 > > > > In a message dated 3/6/2006 6:04:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com writes: > > Kenny, > (With apologies to all for turning this into an NRA chat room), I know > the restrictions you live with in NY. Years ago, we purchased a pistol from > the then great Abercrombie & Fitch while visiting in NYC. They had to send it > to our local dealer for us. > It's not easy to obtain a CCWP here in NC. It takes months. We have to > take hours of instruction, show proficiency on the range and pass a written > test, then pay $100 for a 5 yr. license (renewable for another $100), get > fingerprinted, have records checked w/ the FBI, SBI, state mental institutions and, > if denied, forfeit the $100. > I believe Pete Geisler and the folks down in FL have it a little easier. > Still, it's worth the hassle. I've never had to draw my weapon on anyone and > I hope I never have to. Have come close, tho. We just retired after 28 > years in the jewelry business. Great feeling to make it w/o incident. > Regards, Stan > > > > > >
Talking about guns and race tracks, when I used to race at Hickory Speedway on Saturday nites I always carried a gun, some of these guys always wanted to fight after some fender action, I would not have shot to kill but I like my friend used to say, we`ll make`em dance back to their trailer dodging these bullets. ----- Original Message ----- From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> To: <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Import Cruising > I can tell you that VIR has a sign that says it prohibits weapons. That > doesn't mean that there aren't any brought in. Almost every track I've ever > been to is the same. Most also prohibit alcoholic beverages but serve beer > at the concession stand (???) and everyone breaks out a beer after the day > is done. > Regards, Stan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net> > To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:31 PM > Subject: Re: Import Cruising > > > > ok.. > > > > I have a question since I find this interesting. Are properly lic. > concealed weapons allowed at SAAC events or do they just follow the state > laws? What about all those other race events like SCCA > > and other stuff. > > > > jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Shelby6t7 (AT) aol (DOT) com: > > > > - Again......here in NYC. In order to even begin to be considered for a > C.C. > > - premit, you have to prove that you are in a business where you carry > large > > - amounts of money or jewels on your person at all times. > > - > > - Kenny > > - > > > >