68 Shelby with power sunroof from ASC

I would never say it didn't happen, but I would say extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Good luck. If I see the picture, I will let you know.

 

Sorry, don't have a photo. I believe this has come up before about Shelbys with an ASC sunroof. I thought the reply was, 'never happened".

The man that painted my 67 GT 350 some 26 years ago was a retired Ford engineer. He also had a 68 Mustang gt fastback, with an ASC sunroof in it. He said it seemed the roof roller motor and seals were from a Lincoln. Knowing what we know now I figure why would it? And, add the lead time to order a Shelby in 1968 or 1969. Factory has to build it as a Mustang. Probably had to wait for a DSO batch. Delivery to the conversion place in Michigan. Then shipment to ASC. Then to the dealer. Maybe they would have sent it to ASC first, then to the conversion factory. It would have been long.

Oh, the 68 I mentioned ended up as a modified drag car, front end gutted and all. I haven't seen it in about 10 years.

 

I have seen the Sun Roof in Coupes but have never seen one in a Fastback. I didn't think there was enough room for an Electric Sun Roof in a Fastback.

 

I see Mustang pictures but no Shelby's. It's a good story but without proof that is all it is . Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The best of luck with your search. Bob

 

I would add if this was a "factory install" the car would most likely be identified as a factory engineering vehicle. If you're saying its a dealer install, well, any dealer could have done such a travesty. To the best of my knowledge, there were about two dozen of the 1968s that were factory engineering vehicles. If you have one of those, then you may have something to go on...if not you are sledding uphill.

 

I would agree with Bob and Pete. A bunch of different cars Ford test fit sunroofs on but Shelby's? Show me the proof. Even AO Smith had a round with sunroofs on the XR7s, I talked to one of the workers who witnessed a water test. The engineer was in the car when it was going on and got out of the car cursing, soaking wet.

 

In response to the 68 Shelby with the power sunroof. While in the Military, and stationed overseas (fall of 1970 to fall of 1971), I saw a photo of a Red 68 GT500 with a Santa Claus, standing through the sunroof with I believe his arms out stretched-with wrapped Christmas presents scattered about. I believe it was just a general Merry Christmas from the magazine, as I do not remember any advertisement, logos or any statement printed on the page. The magazines we had were often old, but nothing could have been newer than late fall of 1971. Later I owned Cougars with these sunroofs and even a Grand Marquis, but never saw another Shelby, except the one in that magazine. Thanks and best of luck on finding the photo. Steve

 

Another thing: After the car is built at the assembly plant, would the Marti report show that it was delivered to ASC? Or, would it show the final delivery point as the dealer?

 

The Marti report would show the first "owner". If the car was an "engineering car" you would have a time frame established (between time built and time sold) and then would need to find some documentation within that window. Sometimes these windows are quite large. I know of some engineering cars that were at Shelby/AO Smith for more than a year before being returned to stock and sold.

If the car was built and sold to some dealership (pick your favorite) in a relatively short time frame, it will be very difficult to document. At that point, it probably becomes a dealer installed item and a lot less desirable than a "factory" installation, in my opinion.

If this car is not known engineering car, the chances of it being a factory install are probably near nil. It is very unlikely they would build such a car and turn around to sell it some franchise dealer. The odd cars were purpose built. The regular production cars are usually built, converted and sold within about a three-four week window or less.

The burden here is on the owner or his associates to find the documents. A few pictures of Mustangs with sun roofs is not proof. The 1968 Shelby contract was very specific. AO Smith did not free lance cars or special build them. The cars were built to the contract standard. Only the cars sent to Shelby/Ford for engineering evaluation were outside the production norms. This three headed monster (Ford/Shelby/AOSmith) was constantly checking and rechecking on each of the others to make sure the contract was followed to the letter.

 

So do you mind sharing this proof so we can narrow down which car you are talking about?

It didnt exist unless you prove it existed, thats just the way things work round here.

Best,
Vern

 

stallyberger, when you come onto a forum like this as a newbie no one knows you or your intentions. There have been many incidents where trolls (posters with dishonorable intentions posting false information or making accusations to start a conflict) coming on the site as a newbie (new poster). So please understand your post with it's seemingly outlandish accusation of a unknown Shelby variety to a forum full of knowledgeable viewers fits the bill. If you are not aforementioned troll then please accept my apologies and don't leave . If you are one of the dishonorable trouble making troll types then good bye and good riddance. Bob

 

stallyberger, when you come onto a forum like this as a newbie no one knows you or your intentions. There have been many incidents where trolls (posters with dishonorable intentions posting false information or making accusations to start a conflict) coming on the site as a newbie (new poster). So please understand your post with it's seemingly outlandish accusation of a unknown Shelby variety to a forum full of knowledgeable viewers fits the bill. If you are not aforementioned troll then please accept my apologies and don't leave . If you are one of the dishonorable trouble making troll types then good bye and good riddance. Bob

 

Last post? Are you sure? I think you are confusing skeptism with negativism. People can't be skeptical about such a thing? I think the people here are trying to help. Obviously, you disagree.

The people that have posted here are among the most knowledgeable people in the world about this subject matter. Before you run away crying, you might may want to reconsider...

I have some extraordinary new information and it has not previously made available anywhere. Especially if your car is red and is # 1503. I am just not sure if I am ready to share it yet....

 

Hi,
Just read all this and am really wondering if there would even be enough clearance for a sunroof in a fastback with a roll bar?
I would also think it would be wise to see if asc has any records or available info like pictures...they were/are still in business I think.
Santa will be due in a few months if any other attempts fail,maybe we should just wait for him
P.D.

 

There is enough clearance if the roof opens to the outside of the car.

Strangely enough I think this is going to be confirmed soon....just a feeling I have

 

Good point. The one I've seen dropped the headliner down about one inch. No modification was necessary to those two metal trim panels between the headliner cloth and the window opening.
So, it would have been a tight fit. I still think it could have been done though.