Ken, I have asked Dan if he is practicing for the Craftsman truck series, but he keeps avoiding giving me an answer. On a serious note, thanks to the list members who responded and helped me make a case with the shop. With their pointers and some persuasive (read: angry) calls, it suddenly went from $1200 to a free repair. M. In a message dated 12/3/2005 2:37:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Shelby6t7@aol.com writes: Mike: It's not the tranny, it's the guy driving the van........lol.