Jim Cowles you hit the nail on the head. Nobody should mess with bidders in a currently active auction to try and sell them a similar item, but it happens all the time. I'm sure and it happens on items that are not high end too. That is the perfect reason for having a private auction, it helps protect the seller. But the down side is that the bidder IDs all remain hidded after the auction is over. This does not help protect the bidders or future bidders of something from the same seller and gives all sellers the opportunity to have and hide shill bidding in their auctions and for it to go and continue auction after auction undetected. Until E-Bay will change the pratice of keeping the ID's hidden "after" a private auction is completed it will always cast a shadow on all sellers who lists their auctions as private auctions. Ending this pratice of keeping all the bidder IDs hidden "after" the auction is over is in the best long term interest of both sellers and buyers on E-Bay. Do people agree or disagree? Jim Seisser -----Original Message----- From: James G Cowles <shelbyparts@msn.com> Sent: Dec 14, 2005 11:46 AM To: fordmond@swbell.net, ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com Subject: Re: Ebay Listing I had one of my customers call me yesterday and he had bid on the convertible and gotten emails from other people trying to skirt Ebay and trying to sell him their car. Makes sense to me now why people run private auctions on the higher end stuff >From: <fordmond@swbell.net> >To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com> >Subject: Re: Ebay Listing >Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:50:03 -0600 > >Very Nice Jim. >It's a great listing.... >JW >----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com> >To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:32 AM >Subject: Re: Ebay Listing > > >>Hello Shelby List, >>The Auctions that Stephen Becker has running on eBay this week are my >>handiwork. I have done many auctions and these are ones that I made and am >>hosting the pics as well. I get paid well to do an auction and besides the >>making of the auctions have no business affiliation with Stephen on these >>cars. >> >>Stephen chose to run both as open auctions even though it proves to be a >>hassle most times, due to ebayers emailing the bidders and basically >>interfering with the auction. >> >>So, Private auctions will probably be the norm for Stephen, but this week >>he's running them wide open. >> >>Thanks for the interest and nice comments. >> >> >>Thanks, Jim Elsmore >> >>'66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car! >>'66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer >>'67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process >> >>visit www.nvsaac.com >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: <jonlee@wt.net> >>To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> >>Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:00 AM >>Subject: Ebay Listing >> >> >>> >>>Not trying to be funny or anything, but I noticed that this auction looks >>like Jim Elsmore's writing and snake background for Stephen Becker's >>69-500 >>convertible car? I thought the car was sold. >>> >>> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969...oryZ6465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>> >>>jon >>> >>> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
I agree completely. I too run private auctions, and always post right in the listing that any bidder can request a screen printout from me AFTER the auction showing all the other bidders. Mind you, not stalkers, only bidders will get a printout to show that my auctions are run "on the money". Now if they'd only do that at live auctions ! LOL Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "ecj" <ecj@peoplepc.com> To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Ebay Listing > Jim Cowles you hit the nail on the head. Nobody should mess with bidders > in a currently active auction to try and sell them a similar item, but it > happens all the time. I'm sure and it happens on items that are not high > end too. That is the perfect reason for having a private auction, it helps > protect the seller. But the down side is that the bidder IDs all remain > hidded after the auction is over. This does not help protect the bidders > or future bidders of something from the same seller and gives all sellers > the opportunity to have and hide shill bidding in their auctions and for > it to go and continue auction after auction undetected. > > Until E-Bay will change the pratice of keeping the ID's hidden "after" a > private auction is completed it will always cast a shadow on all sellers > who lists their auctions as private auctions. Ending this pratice of > keeping all the bidder IDs hidden "after" the auction is over is in the > best long term interest of both sellers and buyers on E-Bay. > > Do people agree or disagree? > > Jim Seisser > > -----Original Message----- > From: James G Cowles <shelbyparts@msn.com> > Sent: Dec 14, 2005 11:46 AM > To: fordmond@swbell.net, ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com > Subject: Re: Ebay Listing > > I had one of my customers call me yesterday and he had bid on the > convertible and gotten emails from other people trying to skirt Ebay and > trying to sell him their car. Makes sense to me now why people run > private > auctions on the higher end stuff > > >>From: <fordmond@swbell.net> >>To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com> >>Subject: Re: Ebay Listing >>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:50:03 -0600 >> >>Very Nice Jim. >>It's a great listing.... >>JW >>----- Original Message ----- From: "NVSAAC" <info@nvsaac.com> >>To: <ShelbyMustang@CarMemories.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:32 AM >>Subject: Re: Ebay Listing >> >> >>>Hello Shelby List, >>>The Auctions that Stephen Becker has running on eBay this week are my >>>handiwork. I have done many auctions and these are ones that I made and >>>am >>>hosting the pics as well. I get paid well to do an auction and besides >>>the >>>making of the auctions have no business affiliation with Stephen on these >>>cars. >>> >>>Stephen chose to run both as open auctions even though it proves to be a >>>hassle most times, due to ebayers emailing the bidders and basically >>>interfering with the auction. >>> >>>So, Private auctions will probably be the norm for Stephen, but this week >>>he's running them wide open. >>> >>>Thanks for the interest and nice comments. >>> >>> >>>Thanks, Jim Elsmore >>> >>>'66 Shelby GT350H #1882 - Hertz/Non Hertz Car! >>>'66 Shelby GT350 #2306 - Vintage Racer >>>'67 Shelby GT350 #2736 - In Restoration process >>> >>>visit www.nvsaac.com >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: <jonlee@wt.net> >>>To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang@carmemories.com> >>>Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:00 AM >>>Subject: Ebay Listing >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Not trying to be funny or anything, but I noticed that this auction >>>>looks >>>like Jim Elsmore's writing and snake background for Stephen Becker's >>>69-500 >>>convertible car? I thought the car was sold. >>>> >>>> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969...oryZ6465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>>> >>>>jon >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com
