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    <DIV>It is not a reason of why Ford "can't" do something, but more of a rea=
    son of why they "should" do something. </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>It is currently possible to order a vehicle at one dealership and have=
    it delivered to a different dealership. It is done internally between deal=
    erships all the time. For example, say a certain car dealer or dealership g=
    roup owns a Lincoln-Mercury dealership in one city and a Ford car and truck=
    dealership in another city. These two dealerships can be several 100 miles=
    apart or even several states apart. If the Lincoln-Mercury dealership need=
    s an internal work truck they order a truck through&nbsp;their Ford dealers=
    hip and have it delivered (drop-shipped) directly to their Lincoln-Mercury =
    dealership. Drop shipping a vehicle to a different location is done all the=
    time. So internally Ford ia already set up to do this. There is a Ford dea=
    lership right across the street from the new Mustang factory, (AAI or Auto =
    Alliance plant) in Flat Rock, Michigan on I-75 just south of Detriot. &nbsp=
    ;&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>A dealership can sell any car over list price if people are willing to=
    pay for it. Bassically dealerships all buy their&nbsp;vehicles from the pa=
    rent car companies&nbsp;at the same price as one another.&nbsp;Ford or any =
    other parent car company cannot force&nbsp;their dealers to only sell their=
    cars for list price.&nbsp;Dealers are able to charge under, above or at li=
    st price as they see fit. If a dealer sells a&nbsp;vehicle over&nbsp;sticke=
    r the parent Ford Motor Company dosen't make an extra dime from the transac=
    tion.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>The new 2005 Mustang is a hot seller. The 2007 GT500 Cobra Mustang wil=
    l be made in limited numbers. Ford is capacity constrained on how many Must=
    angs they can make at the AAI plant.&nbsp;Ford Motor Company does not need =
    any special group order from us. It will not help them sell any extra Musta=
    ngs Gt or Cobras because demand outstrips the supply. Ford is going to sell=
    every one they make without any help. The is great for the dealerships but=
    not for us the&nbsp;Mustang enthuiast. So what's in it for&nbsp;Ford Motor=
    Company&nbsp;to cater to us?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Would you be willing to pay an extra $1000 or $500 to fly into Detroit=
    &nbsp;(fly in at your own expense)&nbsp;get a tour of the new Mustang plant=
    &nbsp;(with lunch) pick up your car and drive it home.&nbsp;Regardless of w=
    here you buy or pick-up your car from you usually take&nbsp;it to your near=
    by dealer to get&nbsp;warranty work or service performed. Ford should have=
    a deal set-up where you can order&nbsp;a Mustang at your local dealership =
    but have it delivered at the Flat Rock Ford dealership across from the AAI =
    plant&nbsp;and include a plant tour in the deal. They should set it up so t=
    hat&nbsp;picking up your car and the tour is on Thursday. Fly into&nbsp;Det=
    roit after work on Wednesday,&nbsp;tour and car delivery on Thursday and dr=
    ive it home on Friday.&nbsp;Your local dealership gets the sale,&nbsp;the F=
    lat Rock Ford dealership gets a fee for&nbsp;preping your car and deliverin=
    g it,&nbsp;the assembly plant gets a fee for giving you a tour and the pare=
    nt Ford Motor Company make a profit on the whole deal. What's wrong with th=
    at? Sounds like a win-win-win situation for everyone. Just think if you cou=
    ld schedule delivery of your new Mustang on the week just before the Woodwa=
    rd Cruise in August? </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I know the suggestion will come up of why can't I get my tour at the s=
    ame time my car is being build so that I can watch it get built. There are =
    a lot of internal reasons why Ford can't do that. A car in not built in a s=
    ingle day. Also what would happen if there was&nbsp;loss of production on t=
    he line and your vehicle got delayed? They are running overtime on two shif=
    ts. You want to see your car get partially assemblied after midnight then h=
    ave to be back again the next morning at 6 AM to get finished? If you fly i=
    n and plan to drive it home you'd like to be sure your car is ready for you=
    to take home when you get there. Most likely&nbsp;the assembly plant would=
    have to plan to build it a&nbsp;week or two in advance before you plan to =
    be there.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I think picking&nbsp;up a Mustang in Detroit at the assembly plant and=
    getting a tour&nbsp;at the plant is something that Ford could do all year =
    round.&nbsp;If there is a $$$ incentive for them to do it, I don't know why=
    they don't consider it. Maybe we can talk them into the pilot program for =
    this?</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Here's the question, if you could order a Mustang at your local dealer=
    ship and come to Detriot, get a tour of the assembly plant and take your ne=
    w Mustang home with you. Assuming the cost of how you get here and lodging =
    is your own out of pocket expense. How much extra would you pay for this op=
    tion and how many would be willing to do this?&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Jim Seisser&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR=
    >-----Original Message----- <BR>From: gt350hz@aol.com <BR>Sent: Mar 24, 200=

    5 5:04 PM <BR>To: rogerhol@willapabay.org, shelbymustang@carmemories.com <B=
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    <DIV>There was no reason that Ford could not have made arrangements with th=
    e greater Detroit area Ford dealers to handle&nbsp;a few hundred cars.&nbsp=
    ; The cars could have been processed through the local dealers and the driv=
    e would have brought&nbsp;free publicity to Ford and the Mustang.&nbsp;&nbs=
    p;It would not have been the same glamour as picking it up at the factory (=
    like you could with a Chevrolet Corvette), but it would have achieved&nbsp;=
    a publicity and customer benefit.</DIV>
    <DIV>Lee 66 # 869&nbsp;</DIV>&nbsp;<BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: =
    Roger &lt;rogerhol@willapabay.org&gt;<BR>To: shelbymustang@carmemories.com<=
    BR>Sent: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:12:37 -0800<BR>Subject: Ford's Rejection, my r=
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Pete, et al,</=
    FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Ford's rejecti=
    on of your Pony Drive Mustangers' request is an example of what's wrong wit=
    h our American car companies.&nbsp; Ford's lost ground financially every mo=
    nth for almost the last year.&nbsp; GM is considering closing yet another d=
    ivision, either Buick or Pontiac.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Alternatively,=
    Toyota is operating under their 500-year business plan.&nbsp; I kid you no=
    t, they have one.&nbsp; Ford probably has about a 6-year plan, which is as =
    much or more foresight as you typically find in domestic corporations.&nbsp=
    ; And as you might expect from an organization taking a long-term outlook, =
    T Motors will likely overtake G Motors in overall sales in the next year or=
    so.&nbsp; Ford will struggle and probably be a takeover candidate just lik=
    e Chrysler.&nbsp; Sadly, the Daimler buyout is what saved Chrysler and now =
    we're seeing great products from the new company, and that bit of history m=
    ay well&nbsp;repeat itself with other car manufacturers in Detroit.</FONT><=
    /SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Everything cha=
    nges when you take the long view in business or civic management.&nbsp; I'm=
    trying to get my little local city council to develop a mere 100-year plan=
    so that we can make some orderly improvements in our sign ordinance (among=
    other&nbsp;areas)&nbsp;that won't cause people to write off a year's worth=
    of net income because some jackbooted councillors don't like the way busin=
    esses have legally invested in their signs for the last 50 years.&nbsp; A 2=
    5-year phase-in of the new requirements doesn't seem so long when put in&nb=
    sp;a 100-yr perspective, and it becomes palatable to mom &amp; pop operatio=
    ns when planning for the write-off and re-investment.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>I know this is=
    a digression, sorry (not).&nbsp; It's just that nothing surprises me anymo=
    re when I hear crap like this coming from Detroit.&nbsp; Had they been thin=
    king ahead back when they were turning out their abominable quality of prod=
    ucts 50 yrs ago they wouldn't be in this predicament, and it appears that t=
    he loss of the entire industry still doesn't get the message thru to them.&=
    nbsp; Toyota owns the economy car segment with their incredibly hi-tech &am=
    p; futuristic Prius, because of taking the long term approach.&nbsp; Look o=
    ut Cessna &amp; Gulfstream when Toyota decides to sell the business aircraf=
    t that they've already developed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'></FONT></SPAN>=
    &nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Quality.&nbsp;=
    Customer care.&nbsp; Long term planning.&nbsp; This isn't rocket science.&=
    nbsp; Americans taught the principles to the Japanese in the late '40's, an=
    d now their winning the economic war.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Ford could've =
    easily run your transaction thru any number of&nbsp;your members hometown d=
    ealers and everyone would've been happy.&nbsp; They're too short sighted.&n=
    bsp; I'm sure they won't do the bulk deal for us Shelby buyers either.&nbsp=
    ; It's not even worth the call.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Apologies for =
    the rant,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005><FONT face=3D'"Arial"'>Roger</FONT></=
    SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D281264914-24032005>'67GT500</SPAN></DIV>
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