I agree with what you are saying. they are a bit different and they are attractive. in fact I like them very much. they just do not really fit my version of 'real'. to me they are another special version just like the cobra model ( only better). as soon as they start shipping then to shelbys place for mods, and as soon as they get titles as a shelby with a shelby serial number ( like the saleens do) then I will classify them as more than they currently are. for now its likly the best we will get with the shelby name on it bob In a message dated 11/4/2005 9:02:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, campaul1@xtra.co.nz writes: I think Bob you have to look at the compliment of it all and look at the spirit and heritage that this has inspired. Real or not, they are what they are and they will be recognized as being above the rest interms of styling etc. I welcome it as it is a re-enforcement of the car community as a whole. Looked at a sweat little 1966 G.T 350 for around the $200,000 NZD mark, very nice!