No firesuit required Colin. Call me when you're done with Galen. Point well taken Colin. I admit that perhaps my advertising I should focus less on negative comparisons to dealers and more on the advantages we give the private collector. No use beating up the other guy who has a legitimate operation... Remember, Keep the hobby fun! ~Patrick Krook ------------------------------------ Show Your Auto llc Patrick Krook President/CEO pat (AT) showyourauto (DOT) com P.O. 4221 Antioch IL 60002 tel: (847) 838-3749 fax: (847) 574-5910 mobile: (224) 430-0931 www.showyourauto.com ------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: Colin Comer [mailto:colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:29 PM To: Patrick Krook Subject: Re: Stephen responds Actually, Patrick, I didn't get your voice mail - but I can't wait - it ought to be a good one! I am in the shop today with Galen Govier and only checking emails....do I need a fire suit to check voice mail??? BTW, I do think you have been a little tough on dealers in some of your advertisements. Are we even now? LOL Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Krook" <mrhtwls (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> To: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>; "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Stephen responds >I see you got my voicemail message Colin. > > Thank you for not painting all brokers with the same paintbrush. Illinois > isn't as uptight as Wisconsin in (probably) this one area only. As far as > IL Secretary of State is concerned, we run a marketing website and nothing > more because we do not buy to resell or confer title. > > I stepped into this mudpuddle because I to recognized that "sideways" > dealing is the ultimate threat to the classic car collector, both hobbyist > and the investment collector. Not all of us are as lucky to have owned 50 > cars by age 20. I had 13 cars through my highschool and college careers. > Buying one beater after another somehow doesn't equate to a vintage > collection ranging from Alphas to 427 Cobras (very cool). Still I see > that we are on the same side. > > Show Your Auto is my humble attempt make good process and national market > reach accessible directly to the REAL private owners of these cars, NOT to > enable pinhookers and protect long term owners from unwittly sell to > "Flipper". (Not that they haven't tried) Hopefully we'll turn the tide > against "Large Private Buyer and Sellers" who want the gold and glory > without the blood and sweat that goes with it. Here's to a Dolphin Safe > marketplace! > > [End shamless self-promotional diatribe] > > ~Patrick Krook, CEO > www.ShowYourAuto.com > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com> > To: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>; James G Cowles > <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com; SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com; > jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:56:41 AM > Subject: Re: Stephen responds > > > Oh, before there is a hit out on me, let me clarify that there ARE > reputable > brokers that DO stand behind their deals....guys that are up front about > what they are doing and buyers know they are using a broker, who gets paid > what, etc. It is the guys masquerading as "collectors" that sell more cars > in a year than most dealers that gets me. I have no problem with guys who > tell me straight up that they want to broker a deal, tell me what they > want, > and I wire their fee to them and the purchase price to the owner. And I > won't even talk about the unscrupulous bastards that steal pictures, post > a > car for sale, and then pretend it is theirs and contact the owner AFTER > they > have a fish on the line. > > Ok, I am stepping off the soap box now. LOL > > Colin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com> > To: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; > <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: Stephen responds > > >> RIGHT! It is a PITA to be a dealer in Wisconsin. Which is what chaps me >> about these curbstone guys, brokers, whatever...they put a deal together, >> and then run and hide if there is a problem. SGB, for example, has run >> the >> ad in Hemmings for years about him being the "Largest Private Buyer and >> Seller" of Shelbys... so what does that mean? Is he a broker? A guy who >> buys and flips? Or a dealer trying to look like he is not? It is >> confusing >> and I am sure I will get a nasty email from him and maybe even a burning >> cross in my yard. LOL - although he is "not on the list". >> >> As far as I am concerned, if you are going to buy and sell cars, you need >> to be honest about it - with the state, with the IRS, with your >> customers. >> All these guys making big money on cars, taking cash or small checks, >> etc. >> and not reporting it are asking for trouble. Skipping title is a Federal >> offense, as is not reporting cash sales. All it takes is one ticked off >> buyer or a seller making a call and you are in deep you know what. >> >> Wisconsin is perhaps the toughest, as we have requirements on paperwork, >> record keeping, what kind of building you are allowed to sell out of, >> having to take a test to get a salesperson license, putting up a $50,000 >> bond with the state in case you stiff anybody they can offer retribution, >> etc. I am glad they are tough, although it does make it hard to do >> "simple" deals because of the miles of paperwork! >> >> And they watch us like a hawk...Right, Jim? LOL >> >> Colin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com> >> To: <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; >> <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:58 AM >> Subject: Re: Stephen responds >> >> >>> In the State of Georgia they have a very weird law that states you dont >>> have to be a dealer to trade cars that are a certain age or low >>> production thus Stephen doesnt need a dealers license. In the state of >>> Wisconsin I cant post a car without them calling me. I had a bunch of >>> cars listed for customers on my website with their phone numbers ( they >>> werent even here and I wasnt the seller!) and they made me pull it down, >>> I dont want all the paperwork involved with being a dealer (RIGHT >>> COLIN!) >>> >>> >>>>From: g adams <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> >>>>To: STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>, jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, Shelby List >>>><shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>>>Subject: Re: Stephen responds >>>>Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:54:12 -0800 (PST) >>>> >>>>Not! >>>> >>>>--- STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > "I am not a dealer"...but..."I am getting out of the >>>> > business"....What >>>> > business? I thought that SGB was just an enthusiast >>>> > like us. What a >>>> > let-down! >>>> > Regards, Stan >>>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net> >>>> > To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com> >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:17 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: Stephen responds >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > This is from the e-mail reponses on his last >>>> > auction # 4600072984 . Sounds >>>> > like retribution to me. >>>> > > >>>> > > "Q: Dear Mr. Becker, I noted this car has been on >>>> > Ebay 3 times now wanted >>>> > to know if there is a problem with the car. Also, I >>>> > noted that you were >>>> > having a liquidation sale. Does this mean you are >>>> > > getting out of the business after all this time? >>>> > If that's the case, do >>>> > you think Shelbys will continue to appreciate or are >>>> > they in for a fall. >>>> > These reason I ask is because I intend to own one. >>>> > > Thanks, Shawn >>>> > > Dec-28-05 >>>> > > >>>> > > A: When the car was on e bay the first time a >>>> > fraudulent bidder placed a >>>> > bid and I had to get it removed but not before the >>>> > bidder hit (and exposed) >>>> > the reserve for a long period of time. It >>>> > > compromised the auction. The second time the >>>> > auction ran the high bidder >>>> > did not understand that I am NOT a dealer and, as >>>> > such, could not offer him >>>> > financing. It is now running for the third and, >>>> > > what I hope to be, final time. The car is a super >>>> > car & is as represented >>>> > and the past auctions failures have nothing to do >>>> > with the car. As far as my >>>> > personal situation goes I am getting out of the >>>> > > business for at least a year. I have many other >>>> > (outside of Shelby cars) >>>> > successful business interests and, as such, am >>>> > focusing on those companies. >>>> > Additionally, my wife and I are having a baby in >>>> > > March and I want to be able to focus on that >>>> > blessed event for at least >>>> > the first twelve to eighteen months. I (personally) >>>> > see the market in a >>>> > beginning-stage free fall right now. I think that >>>> > the >>>> > > auction companies will try to carry and support >>>> > the market place for >>>> > awhile but I think that with the war, higher >>>> > interest rates, home-building >>>> > going down and more consumer debt then ever, that >>>> > these >>>> > > cars are beginning to adjust to realistic levels. >>>> > I maybe wrong (wouldn't >>>> > be the first time) and mine is truly an opinion from >>>> > the inside looking out. >>>> > I will still do some private, paid consultations >>>> > > and higher end dollar deals I just won't be >>>> > available to take every phone >>>> > call or reply to every e mail. It has been a fun 25 >>>> > (+) years in the Shelby >>>> > marketplace. Stephen >>>> > > >>>> > > jon >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Quoting DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com: >>>> > > >>>> > > - In a message dated 1/3/2006 7:40:47 PM Pacific >>>> > Standard Time, >>>> > info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com >>>> > > - writes: >>>> > > - >>>> > > - > On 12/26/2005 10:51:13 AM, Stephen G. Becker >>>> > (sbeckerone (AT) charter (DOT) net) >>>> > > - > wrote: >>>> > > - > >Hello Jim and Merry Christmas to you and your >>>> > family!.... >>>> > > - > > >>>> > > - > >I am taking 2006 off from the Shelby cars as >>>> > I have several things >>>> > going >>>> > > - > on, >>>> > > - > >>>> > > - >>>> > > - Does this indicate that Stephen's sensing a >>>> > (near-term) "top" in the >>>> > market? >>>> > > - >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>__________________________________________ >>>>Yahoo! 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