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  1. Feb 16, 2006 #1
    James G Cowles

    James G Cowles Guest

    Pat: maybe explain to the masses what a pin hooker is. I havent heard that
    term in ages


    >From: Patrick Krook <mrhtwls (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    >Reply-To: Patrick Krook <pat (AT) showyourauto (DOT) com>
    >To: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>, James G Cowles
    ><shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>, mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com, SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com,
    >jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    >Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:19:53 -0800 (PST)
    >
    >I see you got my voicemail message Colin.
    >
    >Thank you for not painting all brokers with the same paintbrush. Illinois
    >isn't as uptight as Wisconsin in (probably) this one area only. As far as
    >IL Secretary of State is concerned, we run a marketing website and nothing
    >more because we do not buy to resell or confer title.
    >
    >I stepped into this mudpuddle because I to recognized that "sideways"
    >dealing is the ultimate threat to the classic car collector, both hobbyist
    >and the investment collector. Not all of us are as lucky to have owned 50
    >cars by age 20. I had 13 cars through my highschool and college careers.
    >Buying one beater after another somehow doesn't equate to a vintage
    >collection ranging from Alphas to 427 Cobras (very cool). Still I see that
    >we are on the same side.
    >
    >Show Your Auto is my humble attempt make good process and national market
    >reach accessible directly to the REAL private owners of these cars, NOT to
    >enable pinhookers and protect long term owners from unwittly sell to
    >"Flipper". (Not that they haven't tried) Hopefully we'll turn the tide
    >against "Large Private Buyer and Sellers" who want the gold and glory
    >without the blood and sweat that goes with it. Here's to a Dolphin Safe
    >marketplace!
    >
    >[End shamless self-promotional diatribe]
    >
    >~Patrick Krook, CEO
    >www.ShowYourAuto.com
    >
    >
    >----- Original Message ----
    >From: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
    >To: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>; James G Cowles
    ><shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com; SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com;
    >jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    >Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:56:41 AM
    >Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >
    >
    >Oh, before there is a hit out on me, let me clarify that there ARE
    >reputable
    >brokers that DO stand behind their deals....guys that are up front about
    >what they are doing and buyers know they are using a broker, who gets paid
    >what, etc. It is the guys masquerading as "collectors" that sell more cars
    >in a year than most dealers that gets me. I have no problem with guys who
    >tell me straight up that they want to broker a deal, tell me what they
    >want,
    >and I wire their fee to them and the purchase price to the owner. And I
    >won't even talk about the unscrupulous bastards that steal pictures, post a
    >car for sale, and then pretend it is theirs and contact the owner AFTER
    >they
    >have a fish on the line.
    >
    >Ok, I am stepping off the soap box now. LOL
    >
    >Colin
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
    >To: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>;
    ><SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:47 AM
    >Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >
    >
    > > RIGHT! It is a PITA to be a dealer in Wisconsin. Which is what chaps me
    > > about these curbstone guys, brokers, whatever...they put a deal
    >together,
    > > and then run and hide if there is a problem. SGB, for example, has run
    >the
    > > ad in Hemmings for years about him being the "Largest Private Buyer and
    > > Seller" of Shelbys... so what does that mean? Is he a broker? A guy who
    > > buys and flips? Or a dealer trying to look like he is not? It is
    >confusing
    > > and I am sure I will get a nasty email from him and maybe even a burning
    > > cross in my yard. LOL - although he is "not on the list".
    > >
    > > As far as I am concerned, if you are going to buy and sell cars, you
    >need
    > > to be honest about it - with the state, with the IRS, with your
    >customers.
    > > All these guys making big money on cars, taking cash or small checks,
    >etc.
    > > and not reporting it are asking for trouble. Skipping title is a Federal
    > > offense, as is not reporting cash sales. All it takes is one ticked off
    > > buyer or a seller making a call and you are in deep you know what.
    > >
    > > Wisconsin is perhaps the toughest, as we have requirements on paperwork,
    > > record keeping, what kind of building you are allowed to sell out of,
    > > having to take a test to get a salesperson license, putting up a $50,000
    > > bond with the state in case you stiff anybody they can offer
    >retribution,
    > > etc. I am glad they are tough, although it does make it hard to do
    > > "simple" deals because of the miles of paperwork!
    > >
    > > And they watch us like a hawk...Right, Jim? LOL
    > >
    > > Colin
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>
    > > To: <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>;
    > > <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    > > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:58 AM
    > > Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    > >
    > >
    > >> In the State of Georgia they have a very weird law that states you dont
    > >> have to be a dealer to trade cars that are a certain age or low
    > >> production thus Stephen doesnt need a dealers license. In the state of
    > >> Wisconsin I cant post a car without them calling me. I had a bunch of
    > >> cars listed for customers on my website with their phone numbers ( they
    > >> werent even here and I wasnt the seller!) and they made me pull it
    >down,
    > >> I dont want all the paperwork involved with being a dealer (RIGHT
    >COLIN!)
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>From: g adams <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    > >>>To: STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>, jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, Shelby List
    > >>><shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    > >>>Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    > >>>Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:54:12 -0800 (PST)
    > >>>
    > >>>Not!
    > >>>
    > >>>--- STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>> > "I am not a dealer"...but..."I am getting out of the
    > >>> > business"....What
    > >>> > business? I thought that SGB was just an enthusiast
    > >>> > like us. What a
    > >>> > let-down!
    > >>> > Regards, Stan
    > >>> >
    > >>> > ----- Original Message -----
    > >>> > From: <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>
    > >>> > To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:17 PM
    > >>> > Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>> > > This is from the e-mail reponses on his last
    > >>> > auction # 4600072984 . Sounds
    > >>> > like retribution to me.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > "Q: Dear Mr. Becker, I noted this car has been on
    > >>> > Ebay 3 times now wanted
    > >>> > to know if there is a problem with the car. Also, I
    > >>> > noted that you were
    > >>> > having a liquidation sale. Does this mean you are
    > >>> > > getting out of the business after all this time?
    > >>> > If that's the case, do
    > >>> > you think Shelbys will continue to appreciate or are
    > >>> > they in for a fall.
    > >>> > These reason I ask is because I intend to own one.
    > >>> > > Thanks, Shawn
    > >>> > > Dec-28-05
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > A: When the car was on e bay the first time a
    > >>> > fraudulent bidder placed a
    > >>> > bid and I had to get it removed but not before the
    > >>> > bidder hit (and exposed)
    > >>> > the reserve for a long period of time. It
    > >>> > > compromised the auction. The second time the
    > >>> > auction ran the high bidder
    > >>> > did not understand that I am NOT a dealer and, as
    > >>> > such, could not offer him
    > >>> > financing. It is now running for the third and,
    > >>> > > what I hope to be, final time. The car is a super
    > >>> > car & is as represented
    > >>> > and the past auctions failures have nothing to do
    > >>> > with the car. As far as my
    > >>> > personal situation goes I am getting out of the
    > >>> > > business for at least a year. I have many other
    > >>> > (outside of Shelby cars)
    > >>> > successful business interests and, as such, am
    > >>> > focusing on those companies.
    > >>> > Additionally, my wife and I are having a baby in
    > >>> > > March and I want to be able to focus on that
    > >>> > blessed event for at least
    > >>> > the first twelve to eighteen months. I (personally)
    > >>> > see the market in a
    > >>> > beginning-stage free fall right now. I think that
    > >>> > the
    > >>> > > auction companies will try to carry and support
    > >>> > the market place for
    > >>> > awhile but I think that with the war, higher
    > >>> > interest rates, home-building
    > >>> > going down and more consumer debt then ever, that
    > >>> > these
    > >>> > > cars are beginning to adjust to realistic levels.
    > >>> > I maybe wrong (wouldn't
    > >>> > be the first time) and mine is truly an opinion from
    > >>> > the inside looking out.
    > >>> > I will still do some private, paid consultations
    > >>> > > and higher end dollar deals I just won't be
    > >>> > available to take every phone
    > >>> > call or reply to every e mail. It has been a fun 25
    > >>> > (+) years in the Shelby
    > >>> > marketplace. Stephen
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > jon
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Quoting DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com:
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > - In a message dated 1/3/2006 7:40:47 PM Pacific
    > >>> > Standard Time,
    > >>> > info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com
    > >>> > > - writes:
    > >>> > > -
    > >>> > > - > On 12/26/2005 10:51:13 AM, Stephen G. Becker
    > >>> > (sbeckerone (AT) charter (DOT) net)
    > >>> > > - > wrote:
    > >>> > > - > >Hello Jim and Merry Christmas to you and your
    > >>> > family!....
    > >>> > > - > >
    > >>> > > - > >I am taking 2006 off from the Shelby cars as
    > >>> > I have several things
    > >>> > going
    > >>> > > - > on,
    > >>> > > - >
    > >>> > > -
    > >>> > > - Does this indicate that Stephen's sensing a
    > >>> > (near-term) "top" in the
    > >>> > market?
    > >>> > > -
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > >
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>__________________________________________
    > >>>Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about.
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    #1
  2. Feb 16, 2006 #2
    Colin Comer

    Colin Comer Guest

    A lady that caters to Pins?

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>
    To: <pat (AT) showyourauto (DOT) com>; <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>;
    <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>;
    <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:50 PM
    Subject: Re: Stephen responds


    > Pat: maybe explain to the masses what a pin hooker is. I havent heard
    > that term in ages
    >
    >
    >>From: Patrick Krook <mrhtwls (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    >>Reply-To: Patrick Krook <pat (AT) showyourauto (DOT) com>
    >>To: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>, James G Cowles
    >><shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>, mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com, SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com,
    >>jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    >>Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >>Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:19:53 -0800 (PST)
    >>
    >>I see you got my voicemail message Colin.
    >>
    >>Thank you for not painting all brokers with the same paintbrush. Illinois
    >>isn't as uptight as Wisconsin in (probably) this one area only. As far as
    >>IL Secretary of State is concerned, we run a marketing website and nothing
    >>more because we do not buy to resell or confer title.
    >>
    >>I stepped into this mudpuddle because I to recognized that "sideways"
    >>dealing is the ultimate threat to the classic car collector, both hobbyist
    >>and the investment collector. Not all of us are as lucky to have owned 50
    >>cars by age 20. I had 13 cars through my highschool and college careers.
    >>Buying one beater after another somehow doesn't equate to a vintage
    >>collection ranging from Alphas to 427 Cobras (very cool). Still I see
    >>that we are on the same side.
    >>
    >>Show Your Auto is my humble attempt make good process and national market
    >>reach accessible directly to the REAL private owners of these cars, NOT to
    >>enable pinhookers and protect long term owners from unwittly sell to
    >>"Flipper". (Not that they haven't tried) Hopefully we'll turn the tide
    >>against "Large Private Buyer and Sellers" who want the gold and glory
    >>without the blood and sweat that goes with it. Here's to a Dolphin Safe
    >>marketplace!
    >>
    >>[End shamless self-promotional diatribe]
    >>
    >>~Patrick Krook, CEO
    >>www.ShowYourAuto.com
    >>
    >>
    >>----- Original Message ----
    >>From: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
    >>To: Colin Comer <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>; James G Cowles
    >><shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com; SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com;
    >>jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net; shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    >>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:56:41 AM
    >>Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >>
    >>
    >>Oh, before there is a hit out on me, let me clarify that there ARE
    >>reputable
    >>brokers that DO stand behind their deals....guys that are up front about
    >>what they are doing and buyers know they are using a broker, who gets paid
    >>what, etc. It is the guys masquerading as "collectors" that sell more cars
    >>in a year than most dealers that gets me. I have no problem with guys who
    >>tell me straight up that they want to broker a deal, tell me what they
    >>want,
    >>and I wire their fee to them and the purchase price to the owner. And I
    >>won't even talk about the unscrupulous bastards that steal pictures, post
    >>a
    >>car for sale, and then pretend it is theirs and contact the owner AFTER
    >>they
    >>have a fish on the line.
    >>
    >>Ok, I am stepping off the soap box now. LOL
    >>
    >>Colin
    >>----- Original Message -----
    >>From: "Colin Comer" <colin (AT) colinsclassicauto (DOT) com>
    >>To: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>; <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>;
    >><SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>; <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:47 AM
    >>Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >>
    >>
    >> > RIGHT! It is a PITA to be a dealer in Wisconsin. Which is what chaps me
    >> > about these curbstone guys, brokers, whatever...they put a deal
    >>together,
    >> > and then run and hide if there is a problem. SGB, for example, has run
    >>the
    >> > ad in Hemmings for years about him being the "Largest Private Buyer and
    >> > Seller" of Shelbys... so what does that mean? Is he a broker? A guy who
    >> > buys and flips? Or a dealer trying to look like he is not? It is
    >>confusing
    >> > and I am sure I will get a nasty email from him and maybe even a
    >> > burning
    >> > cross in my yard. LOL - although he is "not on the list".
    >> >
    >> > As far as I am concerned, if you are going to buy and sell cars, you
    >>need
    >> > to be honest about it - with the state, with the IRS, with your
    >>customers.
    >> > All these guys making big money on cars, taking cash or small checks,
    >>etc.
    >> > and not reporting it are asking for trouble. Skipping title is a
    >> > Federal
    >> > offense, as is not reporting cash sales. All it takes is one ticked off
    >> > buyer or a seller making a call and you are in deep you know what.
    >> >
    >> > Wisconsin is perhaps the toughest, as we have requirements on
    >> > paperwork,
    >> > record keeping, what kind of building you are allowed to sell out of,
    >> > having to take a test to get a salesperson license, putting up a
    >> > $50,000
    >> > bond with the state in case you stiff anybody they can offer
    >>retribution,
    >> > etc. I am glad they are tough, although it does make it hard to do
    >> > "simple" deals because of the miles of paperwork!
    >> >
    >> > And they watch us like a hawk...Right, Jim? LOL
    >> >
    >> > Colin
    >> > ----- Original Message -----
    >> > From: "James G Cowles" <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com>
    >> > To: <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>; <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>; <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>;
    >> > <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:58 AM
    >> > Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >> In the State of Georgia they have a very weird law that states you
    >> >> dont
    >> >> have to be a dealer to trade cars that are a certain age or low
    >> >> production thus Stephen doesnt need a dealers license. In the state
    >> >> of
    >> >> Wisconsin I cant post a car without them calling me. I had a bunch of
    >> >> cars listed for customers on my website with their phone numbers (
    >> >> they
    >> >> werent even here and I wasnt the seller!) and they made me pull it
    >>down,
    >> >> I dont want all the paperwork involved with being a dealer (RIGHT
    >>COLIN!)
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>>From: g adams <mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    >> >>>To: STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>, jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net, Shelby List
    >> >>><shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >> >>>Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >> >>>Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:54:12 -0800 (PST)
    >> >>>
    >> >>>Not!
    >> >>>
    >> >>>--- STAN SIMM <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>> > "I am not a dealer"...but..."I am getting out of the
    >> >>> > business"....What
    >> >>> > business? I thought that SGB was just an enthusiast
    >> >>> > like us. What a
    >> >>> > let-down!
    >> >>> > Regards, Stan
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
    >> >>> > From: <jonlee (AT) wt (DOT) net>
    >> >>> > To: "Shelby List" <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:17 PM
    >> >>> > Subject: Re: Stephen responds
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > > This is from the e-mail reponses on his last
    >> >>> > auction # 4600072984 . Sounds
    >> >>> > like retribution to me.
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > > "Q: Dear Mr. Becker, I noted this car has been on
    >> >>> > Ebay 3 times now wanted
    >> >>> > to know if there is a problem with the car. Also, I
    >> >>> > noted that you were
    >> >>> > having a liquidation sale. Does this mean you are
    >> >>> > > getting out of the business after all this time?
    >> >>> > If that's the case, do
    >> >>> > you think Shelbys will continue to appreciate or are
    >> >>> > they in for a fall.
    >> >>> > These reason I ask is because I intend to own one.
    >> >>> > > Thanks, Shawn
    >> >>> > > Dec-28-05
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > > A: When the car was on e bay the first time a
    >> >>> > fraudulent bidder placed a
    >> >>> > bid and I had to get it removed but not before the
    >> >>> > bidder hit (and exposed)
    >> >>> > the reserve for a long period of time. It
    >> >>> > > compromised the auction. The second time the
    >> >>> > auction ran the high bidder
    >> >>> > did not understand that I am NOT a dealer and, as
    >> >>> > such, could not offer him
    >> >>> > financing. It is now running for the third and,
    >> >>> > > what I hope to be, final time. The car is a super
    >> >>> > car & is as represented
    >> >>> > and the past auctions failures have nothing to do
    >> >>> > with the car. As far as my
    >> >>> > personal situation goes I am getting out of the
    >> >>> > > business for at least a year. I have many other
    >> >>> > (outside of Shelby cars)
    >> >>> > successful business interests and, as such, am
    >> >>> > focusing on those companies.
    >> >>> > Additionally, my wife and I are having a baby in
    >> >>> > > March and I want to be able to focus on that
    >> >>> > blessed event for at least
    >> >>> > the first twelve to eighteen months. I (personally)
    >> >>> > see the market in a
    >> >>> > beginning-stage free fall right now. I think that
    >> >>> > the
    >> >>> > > auction companies will try to carry and support
    >> >>> > the market place for
    >> >>> > awhile but I think that with the war, higher
    >> >>> > interest rates, home-building
    >> >>> > going down and more consumer debt then ever, that
    >> >>> > these
    >> >>> > > cars are beginning to adjust to realistic levels.
    >> >>> > I maybe wrong (wouldn't
    >> >>> > be the first time) and mine is truly an opinion from
    >> >>> > the inside looking out.
    >> >>> > I will still do some private, paid consultations
    >> >>> > > and higher end dollar deals I just won't be
    >> >>> > available to take every phone
    >> >>> > call or reply to every e mail. It has been a fun 25
    >> >>> > (+) years in the Shelby
    >> >>> > marketplace. Stephen
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > > jon
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > > Quoting DLen1261 (AT) aol (DOT) com:
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > > - In a message dated 1/3/2006 7:40:47 PM Pacific
    >> >>> > Standard Time,
    >> >>> > info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com
    >> >>> > > - writes:
    >> >>> > > -
    >> >>> > > - > On 12/26/2005 10:51:13 AM, Stephen G. Becker
    >> >>> > (sbeckerone (AT) charter (DOT) net)
    >> >>> > > - > wrote:
    >> >>> > > - > >Hello Jim and Merry Christmas to you and your
    >> >>> > family!....
    >> >>> > > - > >
    >> >>> > > - > >I am taking 2006 off from the Shelby cars as
    >> >>> > I have several things
    >> >>> > going
    >> >>> > > - > on,
    >> >>> > > - >
    >> >>> > > -
    >> >>> > > - Does this indicate that Stephen's sensing a
    >> >>> > (near-term) "top" in the
    >> >>> > market?
    >> >>> > > -
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> > >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>>__________________________________________
    >> >>>Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about.
    >> >>>Just $16.99/mo. or less.
    >> >>>dsl.yahoo.com
    >> >>>
    >> >>
    >> >> _________________________________________________________________
    >> >> Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
    >> >> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
    >> >>
    >> >
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