Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? These tires are almost impossible to get. What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find used or NOS? Jim
In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:22:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com writes: > Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? > These tires are almost impossible to get. > > What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find used or > NOS? > Ditto for Blue Dots; are there any NOS out there anywhere? Dave
Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on Cudas, 6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and they were recapped at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL > > From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> > Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST > To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> > Subject: Repro Tires > > Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? > These tires are almost impossible to get. > > What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find used or NOS? > > Jim >
Only issue is that the cuda blue streaks are different from the ones used on 66's Have one or two of those. Jeff S -----Original Message----- >From: lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net >Sent: Jan 28, 2006 7:24 PM >To: NVSAAC <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com >Subject: Re: Repro Tires > >Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on Cudas, 6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and they were recapped at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL >> >> From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> >> Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST >> To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >> Subject: Repro Tires >> >> Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? >> These tires are almost impossible to get. >> >> What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find used or NOS? >> >> Jim >> >
As Jeff S indicated the Mopar ones are different . The factory 14" 66 GT350 tire does not have a blue line around the sidewall. The Mopars had the blue line. You can buy a 6.95 repro powercushion tire and color the red or white line black and it looks close. The black walls are not reproed . I had a set of NOS 6.95 X14 blackwalls on my sapphire blue 66GT350 #2330 that I sold last week at Russo and Steele . The tires had a very vintage and correct looking appearance. They are the right size and the right MFG so by SAAC div II or MCA trailed concours guidelines they would be no points off. The 6.95 bluestreaks are a slightly shorter profile and a little wider tread width then the powercushion tire just to name a couple of differences. you never hear of a nice set for sale. I paid a pretty penny from one of our list members for my show set of bluestreaks a few years back and glad I did now. I have not heard of a set since. I have a white H car I am restoring for Div 1 concours that I bought the bluestreaks for. I have been corresponding with Kelsey tires who is hopefully going to repro the bluestreaks . John K said it takes about 18 months to bring it to market if he had everything he needed right then. He didn't at that time which was Oct 05. He isn't giving up yet but it sounds like it is going to be at least a year and a half before we see anything. Bob G. On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 09:35 PM, speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com wrote: > Only issue is that the cuda blue streaks are different from the ones > used on 66's > > Have one or two of those. > > Jeff S > > -----Original Message----- >> From: lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net >> Sent: Jan 28, 2006 7:24 PM >> To: NVSAAC <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com >> Subject: Re: Repro Tires >> >> Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on >> Cudas, 6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and they >> were recapped at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL >>> >>> From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> >>> Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST >>> To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >>> Subject: Repro Tires >>> >>> Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? >>> These tires are almost impossible to get. >>> >>> What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find >>> used or NOS? >>> >>> Jim >>> >> > >
Bob- Since you're in communication w/Kelsey, perhaps you may know why on Earth they re-popped the BlueDots b4 the Bluestreaks. Surely they would have had more of a market w/the '66 GT350 and (w/slight mods) the MOPAR folks. It took them quite a long time to tool up for the BlueDots and I wonder if they're in the black yet, even at $400 apiece. Regards, Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Gaines" <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com> To: <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com> Cc: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>; "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>; <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Repro Tires > As Jeff S indicated the Mopar ones are different . The factory 14" 66 > GT350 tire does not have a blue line around the sidewall. The Mopars had > the blue line. You can buy a 6.95 repro powercushion tire and color > the red or white line black and it looks close. The black walls are not > reproed . I had a set of NOS 6.95 X14 blackwalls on my sapphire blue > 66GT350 #2330 that I sold last week at Russo and Steele . The tires > had a very vintage and correct looking appearance. They are the right > size and the right MFG so by SAAC div II or MCA trailed concours > guidelines they would be no points off. The 6.95 bluestreaks are a > slightly shorter profile and a little wider tread width then the > powercushion tire just to name a couple of differences. you never hear > of a nice set for sale. I paid a pretty penny from one of our list > members for my show set of bluestreaks a few years back and glad I did > now. I have not heard of a set since. I have a white H car I am > restoring for Div 1 concours that I bought the bluestreaks for. I have > been corresponding with Kelsey tires who is hopefully going to repro > the bluestreaks . John K said it takes about 18 months to bring it to > market if he had everything he needed right then. He didn't at that time > which was Oct 05. He isn't giving up yet but it sounds like it is going > to be at least a year and a half before we see anything. Bob G. > On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 09:35 PM, speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com wrote: > > > Only issue is that the cuda blue streaks are different from the ones > > used on 66's > > > > Have one or two of those. > > > > Jeff S > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net > >> Sent: Jan 28, 2006 7:24 PM > >> To: NVSAAC <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com > >> Subject: Re: Repro Tires > >> > >> Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on > >> Cudas, 6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and they > >> were recapped at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL > >>> > >>> From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> > >>> Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST > >>> To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> > >>> Subject: Repro Tires > >>> > >>> Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? > >>> These tires are almost impossible to get. > >>> > >>> What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find > >>> used or NOS? > >>> > >>> Jim > >>> > >> > > > >
They did the Blue Dots because they had a tire that was simlilar >From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> >To: "Robert Gaines" <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com>, <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com> >CC: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>, "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, ><ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >Subject: Re: Repro Tires >Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:51:30 -0500 > >Bob- > Since you're in communication w/Kelsey, perhaps you may know why on >Earth >they re-popped the BlueDots b4 the Bluestreaks. Surely they would have had >more of a market w/the '66 GT350 and (w/slight mods) the MOPAR folks. It >took them quite a long time to tool up for the BlueDots and I wonder if >they're in the black yet, even at $400 apiece. >Regards, Stan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Gaines" <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com> >To: <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com> >Cc: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>; "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>; ><ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:33 PM >Subject: Re: Repro Tires > > > > As Jeff S indicated the Mopar ones are different . The factory 14" 66 > > GT350 tire does not have a blue line around the sidewall. The Mopars had > > the blue line. You can buy a 6.95 repro powercushion tire and color > > the red or white line black and it looks close. The black walls are not > > reproed . I had a set of NOS 6.95 X14 blackwalls on my sapphire blue > > 66GT350 #2330 that I sold last week at Russo and Steele . The tires > > had a very vintage and correct looking appearance. They are the right > > size and the right MFG so by SAAC div II or MCA trailed concours > > guidelines they would be no points off. The 6.95 bluestreaks are a > > slightly shorter profile and a little wider tread width then the > > powercushion tire just to name a couple of differences. you never hear > > of a nice set for sale. I paid a pretty penny from one of our list > > members for my show set of bluestreaks a few years back and glad I did > > now. I have not heard of a set since. I have a white H car I am > > restoring for Div 1 concours that I bought the bluestreaks for. I have > > been corresponding with Kelsey tires who is hopefully going to repro > > the bluestreaks . John K said it takes about 18 months to bring it to > > market if he had everything he needed right then. He didn't at that time > > which was Oct 05. He isn't giving up yet but it sounds like it is going > > to be at least a year and a half before we see anything. Bob G. > > On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 09:35 PM, speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com wrote: > > > > > Only issue is that the cuda blue streaks are different from the ones > > > used on 66's > > > > > > Have one or two of those. > > > > > > Jeff S > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >> From: lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net > > >> Sent: Jan 28, 2006 7:24 PM > > >> To: NVSAAC <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com > > >> Subject: Re: Repro Tires > > >> > > >> Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on > > >> Cudas, 6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and they > > >> were recapped at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL > > >>> > > >>> From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> > > >>> Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST > > >>> To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> > > >>> Subject: Repro Tires > > >>> > > >>> Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? > > >>> These tires are almost impossible to get. > > >>> > > >>> What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find > > >>> used or NOS? > > >>> > > >>> Jim > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Jim is right. I asked the same question of John Kelsey some years ago and the reply was that a mold that was very close was already in use and so it was much easier to modify the existing mold to complete a repro of the blue dot first. Bob G On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 08:22 PM, James G Cowles wrote: > They did the Blue Dots because they had a tire that was simlilar > > >> From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> >> To: "Robert Gaines" <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com>, <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com> >> CC: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>, "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, >> <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >> Subject: Re: Repro Tires >> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:51:30 -0500 >> >> Bob- >> Since you're in communication w/Kelsey, perhaps you may know why on >> Earth >> they re-popped the BlueDots b4 the Bluestreaks. Surely they would >> have had >> more of a market w/the '66 GT350 and (w/slight mods) the MOPAR folks. >> It >> took them quite a long time to tool up for the BlueDots and I wonder if >> they're in the black yet, even at $400 apiece. >> Regards, Stan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Gaines" <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com> >> To: <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com> >> Cc: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>; "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>; >> <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:33 PM >> Subject: Re: Repro Tires >> >> >> > As Jeff S indicated the Mopar ones are different . The factory 14" >> 66 >> > GT350 tire does not have a blue line around the sidewall. The Mopars >> had >> > the blue line. You can buy a 6.95 repro powercushion tire and color >> > the red or white line black and it looks close. The black walls are >> not >> > reproed . I had a set of NOS 6.95 X14 blackwalls on my sapphire blue >> > 66GT350 #2330 that I sold last week at Russo and Steele . The tires >> > had a very vintage and correct looking appearance. They are the right >> > size and the right MFG so by SAAC div II or MCA trailed concours >> > guidelines they would be no points off. The 6.95 bluestreaks are a >> > slightly shorter profile and a little wider tread width then the >> > powercushion tire just to name a couple of differences. you never >> hear >> > of a nice set for sale. I paid a pretty penny from one of our list >> > members for my show set of bluestreaks a few years back and glad I >> did >> > now. I have not heard of a set since. I have a white H car I am >> > restoring for Div 1 concours that I bought the bluestreaks for. I >> have >> > been corresponding with Kelsey tires who is hopefully going to >> repro >> > the bluestreaks . John K said it takes about 18 months to bring it >> to >> > market if he had everything he needed right then. He didn't at that >> time >> > which was Oct 05. He isn't giving up yet but it sounds like it is >> going >> > to be at least a year and a half before we see anything. Bob G. >> > On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 09:35 PM, speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com >> wrote: >> > >> > > Only issue is that the cuda blue streaks are different from the >> ones >> > > used on 66's >> > > >> > > Have one or two of those. >> > > >> > > Jeff S >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net >> > >> Sent: Jan 28, 2006 7:24 PM >> > >> To: NVSAAC <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com >> > >> Subject: Re: Repro Tires >> > >> >> > >> Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on >> > >> Cudas, 6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and >> they >> > >> were recapped at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL >> > >>> >> > >>> From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> >> > >>> Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST >> > >>> To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >> > >>> Subject: Repro Tires >> > >>> >> > >>> Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 >> Hertz? >> > >>> These tires are almost impossible to get. >> > >>> >> > >>> What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't >> find >> > >>> used or NOS? >> > >>> >> > >>> Jim >> > >>> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >
Ive looked into having some Goodyear 65 vintage race tires mad and the cost is staggering, getting a good deal on the tooling was $22K per size and the time was almost a year for that . Any one ther want to foot the bill and Ill do it? >From: Robert Gaines <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com> >To: James G Cowles <shelbyparts (AT) msn (DOT) com> >CC: SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com, speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com, lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net, > info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com, ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com >Subject: Re: Repro Tires >Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:39:27 -0600 > >Jim is right. I asked the same question of John Kelsey some years ago and >the reply was that a mold that was very close was already in use and so it >was much easier to modify the existing mold to complete a repro of the >blue dot first. Bob G >On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 08:22 PM, James G Cowles wrote: > >>They did the Blue Dots because they had a tire that was simlilar >> >> >>>From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com> >>>To: "Robert Gaines" <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com>, <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com> >>>CC: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>, "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, >>><ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >>>Subject: Re: Repro Tires >>>Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:51:30 -0500 >>> >>>Bob- >>> Since you're in communication w/Kelsey, perhaps you may know why on >>>Earth >>>they re-popped the BlueDots b4 the Bluestreaks. Surely they would have >>>had >>>more of a market w/the '66 GT350 and (w/slight mods) the MOPAR folks. It >>>took them quite a long time to tool up for the BlueDots and I wonder if >>>they're in the black yet, even at $400 apiece. >>>Regards, Stan >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Robert Gaines" <bgaines (AT) kc (DOT) rr.com> >>>To: <speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com> >>>Cc: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>; "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>; >>><ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >>>Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:33 PM >>>Subject: Re: Repro Tires >>> >>> >>> > As Jeff S indicated the Mopar ones are different . The factory 14" >>>66 >>> > GT350 tire does not have a blue line around the sidewall. The Mopars >>>had >>> > the blue line. You can buy a 6.95 repro powercushion tire and color >>> > the red or white line black and it looks close. The black walls are >>>not >>> > reproed . I had a set of NOS 6.95 X14 blackwalls on my sapphire blue >>> > 66GT350 #2330 that I sold last week at Russo and Steele . The tires >>> > had a very vintage and correct looking appearance. They are the right >>> > size and the right MFG so by SAAC div II or MCA trailed concours >>> > guidelines they would be no points off. The 6.95 bluestreaks are a >>> > slightly shorter profile and a little wider tread width then the >>> > powercushion tire just to name a couple of differences. you never hear >>> > of a nice set for sale. I paid a pretty penny from one of our list >>> > members for my show set of bluestreaks a few years back and glad I >>>did >>> > now. I have not heard of a set since. I have a white H car I am >>> > restoring for Div 1 concours that I bought the bluestreaks for. I have >>> > been corresponding with Kelsey tires who is hopefully going to repro >>> > the bluestreaks . John K said it takes about 18 months to bring it >>>to >>> > market if he had everything he needed right then. He didn't at that >>>time >>> > which was Oct 05. He isn't giving up yet but it sounds like it is >>>going >>> > to be at least a year and a half before we see anything. Bob G. >>> > On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 09:35 PM, speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com >>>wrote: >>> > >>> > > Only issue is that the cuda blue streaks are different from the ones >>> > > used on 66's >>> > > >>> > > Have one or two of those. >>> > > >>> > > Jeff S >>> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > >> From: lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net >>> > >> Sent: Jan 28, 2006 7:24 PM >>> > >> To: NVSAAC <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>, ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com >>> > >> Subject: Re: Repro Tires >>> > >> >>> > >> Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on >>> > >> Cudas, 6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and >>>they >>> > >> were recapped at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL >>> > >>> >>> > >>> From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> >>> > >>> Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST >>> > >>> To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >>> > >>> Subject: Repro Tires >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? >>> > >>> These tires are almost impossible to get. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't >>>find >>> > >>> used or NOS? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Jim >>> > >>> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >>http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >> > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
The Mopar Tires use the blue line and the Shelby doesnt >From: <lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net> >To: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com>,<ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> >Subject: Re: Repro Tires >Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:24:16 -0500 > >Try some MoPar web sites. Those little Blue Streaks also came on Cudas, >6.95 x 14, raised white letters. Had a set in 1966 and they were recapped >at least one for autocrossing. SEE Y'ALL > > > > From: "NVSAAC" <info (AT) nvsaac (DOT) com> > > Date: 2006/01/28 Sat PM 07:22:24 EST > > To: <ShelbyMustang (AT) CarMemories (DOT) com> > > Subject: Repro Tires > > > > Is anyone intending on making "BlueStreak" tires for my '66 Hertz? > > These tires are almost impossible to get. > > > > What are you guys using for Concourse restorations IF you can't find >used or NOS? > > > > Jim > > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/