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Shelby DeTomaso 70P:is it the real thing?

Discussion in 'Shelby History and Miscellaneous Topics' started by bitzman, Aug 23, 2006.

  1. Aug 23, 2006 #1
    bitzman

    bitzman Well-Known Member

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    A car that Carroll Shelby commissioned but never picked up was shown at the Blackhawk Exposition at Pebble Beach.
    it is mid engined, designed by Pete Brock, built by Fantuzzi though it premiered as the Ghia 5000 by DeTomaso.
    It has a hotted up 289 with bundle of snakes exhaust.
    I believe it never raced.
    It was shabby condition as shown. Shelby never picked it up because he decided to make more Daytona coupes. The DeTomaso family recently ceased building cars and sold off the museum's contents. I believe the owner is a Belgian who recently published a book on DeTomaso race cars.
    But I am wondering if this is the real car because Ghia built the first one, the body Brock rejected, and now I am wondering if the one shown is the one that made its world premiere at the Real Fini hotel. After all, in Italy they got a lot of guys with hammers and a lot of aluminum. Anybody know about this car?
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    Seaweed

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    Is this the car that is on the front cover of the Shelby American magizine [ the small version ] dated January 1980. ???? --S.
     
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    did you get a picture?? if so would you share with the rest of the class??:laf:
     
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    Jeff Burgy from SAAC has inside info on this car.
     
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    Well, since "Deep Throat" was taken, I consulted with my insider with a tremendous history of Shelby Inc, aka "Deep Throttle Body", and here's his response along with a photo he sent to me:

    Yeah, It’s the real car alright, but has a new nose on it. Not exactly correct, but close. It’s a barn find for sure. Carroll had deTomaso build six chassis for this project but then backed out when deTomaso didn’t deliver the 7 liter engine on the small block (hence the P70 name) deTomaso then had five Chassis left. He made a similar looking sports racer to FIA specs (the “real one” was done to Can Am specs and wouldn’t qualify to race over there, so he made a “copy” that would.) Then…mad at Carroll (because he didn’t get paid) he vowed to beat him at his own game and race against him in the GT World’s Championship in ’66. So he built the “Mongoose” (Mangusta) to kill the Cobras on the remaining frames and then went into production with them as street GTs when the FIA put size limit of 3 liters on GT engines. That’s one of the reasons the Ford and Shelby GT program was ended in ’65 in favor of the Proto Ford GT40s with 7 liter engines (which originally were going to run as GTs)
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