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Discussion in 'Shelby Mustang List' started by Joe Bright, Feb 20, 2006.

  1. Joe Bright

    Joe Bright Guest

    I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The only drawback in my opinion is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your Shelby's with or without LeMans stripes? Thanks for the feedback. J. Bailey
     
  2. g adams

    g adams Guest

    Joe,
    I prefer the 4 spd and for sure the LeMans stripes.
    But, if you are getting a good car for a price you are
    happy with then go for the Auto.

    Greg
    www.uniquemotorcars.net


    --- Joe Bright <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> wrote:

    > I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent
    > 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The only drawback in my opinion
    > is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a
    > G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your
    > Shelby's with or without LeMans stripes? Thanks for
    > the feedback. J. Bailey



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  3. I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The
    only drawback in my opinion is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a
    G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your Shelby's with or without
    LeMans stripes? Thanks for the feedback. J. Bailey


    Mr. Bailey,

    I have two GT500's, a 67 striped fastback with an automatic and a 68
    unstriped convertible with a four-speed. I find the 67 to be the faster car (at least
    in a straight line), and, despite the automatic, it will just about take your
    head off at full throttle. The four-speed 68 car is more of a cruiser and a
    delight to drive as well, just not quite as fast using basically the same
    engine but with a single four-barrel carb.

    Since you're looking at a 67, all I can say is that driving an automatic,
    while maybe not as thrilling as the four-speed, won't detract all that much from
    the experience. From a value standpoint, I would say that the automatics are
    usually going to be worth a little less than the four-speed cars, other things
    being equal, but that should be reflected in your purchase price as well, so
    no big deal.

    Even though my 67, as an automatic/no air car is sort of near the bottom of
    that year's Shelby GT500 food chain (the center headlights and dark blue color
    with stripes help) and the 68, as an unstriped four-speed/air car, is near the
    top (the gold color hurts this one) for the early 68's, everybody in the
    family seems to want to wind up with the 67! I had both appraised last Spring,
    and the 67 came out better than the 68 (they are in very similar condition).

    Stripes? It doesn't matter too much to me- in fact, my Cobra is also
    unstriped, and we built that one. However, when I had two Vipers in succession a few
    years ago, both were striped. It's a personal preference, and I can't really
    say that the market views one as more valuable than the other, as there are
    usually so many other factors to consider that an issue like that can get lost
    in the process.

    Hope this helps, and good luck with your purchase! The only caution is to
    make SURE that you are buying a real 67 by verifying the Ford and Shelby ID
    numbers with Dave Matthews, the SAAC's 1967 Registrar.

    Cheers,
    Mike Heroy
    CSX4045
    67 GT500 #841
    68 GT500 #389
     
  4. Joe,

    (A minority viewpoint, I'm sure, but....) If by any chance the car is still
    "original paint" and the paint's presentable, then I'd argue (at least a
    little bit) to keep it original, even if there're a few scratches/dings, etc. And
    if there're just issues with certain areas--rock chips along the bottom edges,
    or paint issues on the hood, for example--consider having a skillful artisan
    repair/repaint just those panels. If the car was originally sold w/out
    stripes, then leave it "original" there, too...?

    OTOH, if/when it IS your car, you get to have it the way you want it, eh? If
    the car's not striped right now, then it'd be easy enough to stripe, if YOU
    want the stripes (and having that "ridge" along the edge of the stripes IS
    "correct", isn't it, folks?). Likewise, it's "relatively" simple to swap out the
    a/t & replace it w/a 4-speed (easy for me to say, eh?). And (since that's
    where my 66 Hertz is at), it's just "whatever you want to drive"....

    In a message dated 2/20/2006 1:29:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    mrgt350 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com writes:

    > --- Joe Bright <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> wrote:
    >
    > >I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent
    > >1967 Shelby G.T.500. The only drawback in my opinion
    > >is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a
    > >G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your
    > >Shelby's with or without LeMans stripes? Thanks for
    > >the feedback. J. Bailey

    >
     
  5. My 3 cents Hate :Lemans stripes on the 67-up

    With a big block I have no problem with the auto..

    Jeff S

    -----Original Message-----
    >From: Joe Bright <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com>
    >Sent: Feb 20, 2006 12:52 PM
    >To: Shelby <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>
    >Subject: Your Opinions Please
    >
    >I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The only drawback in my opinion is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your Shelby's with or without LeMans stripes? Thanks for the feedback. J. Bailey
     
  6. Dan

    Dan Guest

    I'd rather an auto ..BUT I am old ;) .. Oh ya ..hate stripes !!! When these cars were new there were not that many I remember that had stripes ... It's like a 66-67 Corvette .. They were all big blocks :D

    Dan

    Joe Bright <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> wrote:
    I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The only drawback in my opinion is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your Shelby's with or without LeMans stripes? Thanks for the feedback. J. Bailey



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  7. Mike offered

    "The only caution is to make SURE that you are buying a real 67 by verifying the Ford and Shelby ID
    numbers"

    I would remind anyone that this is only the start of the process. More than one rebody has been represented with documentation from SAAC Not their fault they are only going on what is provided to them and its not like they are standing there looking at the car


    JEff S
     
  8. >From the glass is half empty perspective..........

    1) An automatic 67 Shelby equals less sale/resale value than a 4 speed car,
    especially a big block.
    2) 67 Shelbys never came from the factory with LeMans stripes, so IMO every
    car that has them is not "factory correct".

    Having said that, if the car is real, solid, and possibly the only shot
    you'll have in owning a real Shelby, then grab it.
     
  9. Tom Kubler

    Tom Kubler Guest

    The design of the hoodscoop on the '67 makes the stripes look right at home, even if they're notcorrect for a '67...however... every '67 Shelby clone and ner-do-well are striped. I almost think people are more inclined to think it's a clone with stripes than not, and without stripes the car will be the devious side of subtle.

    automatic... with a bigblock car, it's of minor overall effect on value and desirability. With a good shift kit it'll accelerate as well or better than a stick with just as much seat-of-the-pants kick in shifting.

    Tom K

    Joe Bright <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> wrote:
    I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The only drawback in my opinion is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your Shelby's with or without LeMans stripes? Thanks for the feedback. J. Bailey
     
  10. If it¹s a good price, take any Shelby you can get these days!

    Sharon


    On 2/20/06 2:52 PM, "Joe Bright" <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> wrote:

    > I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The
    > only drawback in my opinion is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a
    > G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your Shelby's with or without
    > LeMans stripes? Thanks for the feedback. J. Bailey
    >
     
  11. Cevon Mclean

    Cevon Mclean Guest

    Hey guy,
    I perfer an 5-Sp, but love my Sissy Stick in my 67gt500..
    I just point it and pull the trigger!...Hard enough just keeping it
    pointed in the right direction!...If its a small block, I would buy
    nothing but a stick!...Oyes, defently stripes!....only on 65-
    67....Dont like them on 68's...Just me...
    Cevon...
    If the price is right just buy it!...You can always sell it for what you
    paid for it if you dont like it..!


    Date sent: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:06:45 -0800 (PST)
    From: Dan <ttastage2 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    Subject: Re: Your Opinions Please
    To: Joe Bright <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com>, Shelby <shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com>

    I'd rather an auto ..BUT I am old ;) .. Oh ya ..hate stripes !!! When these cars were new there were not that many I remember that had stripes ... It's like a 66-67 Corvette .. They were all big blocks :D

    Dan

    Joe Bright <jbb (AT) apcabinets (DOT) com> wrote:
    I have the opportunity to pick up a pretty decent 1967 Shelby G.T.500. The only drawback in my opinion is that it is an automatic. How do you guys view a G.T.500 with an automatic? Also, do you prefer your Shelby's with or without LeMans stripes? Thanks for the feedback. J. Bailey



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  12. I agree with Jeff. The stripes don't look correct on the later cars. I
    have seen some done well, but they still look odd to the purists. As I say, for
    each his own. As far as an Automatic. The cars I have are automatic and I
    don't feel slighted in the least. They are very responsive, my 1966 Shelby
    GT 350H has a faster response time for accelleration then a 2000 Mustang GT I
    had. I do have a stick shift car.
    This is a personal preference issue on the transmission. There are purists
    who say only get a 4 speed car. As far as I am concerned make certain the
    car is solid and has the correct.

    Lee
    66 # 869
    69 # 2055
     
  13. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Your Opinions Please

    The stripe thing on 67's was started by somebody who restored a whole bunch of them in the 80's. Some of you old Shelby types will probably know who that was. The stripes on 67's and 68's were his trademark restoration touch. Personally I think they look out of place because they just don't fit like the 65 and 66's. As for transmissions, change it to what you want, just keep the orginal one for later. My opinion, however humble. SEE Y'ALL Lee
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    > From: GT350HZ (AT) aol (DOT) com
    > Date: 2006/02/21 Tue PM 09:48:43 EST
    > To: speegle (AT) pipeline (DOT) com, shelbymustang (AT) carmemories (DOT) com
    > Subject: Re: Your Opinions Please
    >
    > I agree with Jeff. The stripes don't look correct on the later cars. I
    > have seen some done well, but they still look odd to the purists. As I say, for
    > each his own. As far as an Automatic. The cars I have are automatic and I
    > don't feel slighted in the least. They are very responsive, my 1966 Shelby
    > GT 350H has a faster response time for accelleration then a 2000 Mustang GT I
    > had. I do have a stick shift car.
    > This is a personal preference issue on the transmission. There are purists
    > who say only get a 4 speed car. As far as I am concerned make certain the
    > car is solid and has the correct.
    >
    > Lee
    > 66 # 869
    > 69 # 2055
    >
    >
    >
     
  14. Re: Re: Your Opinions Please

    On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, lmathias (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net wrote:

    > The stripe thing on 67's was started by somebody who restored a whole
    >bunch of them in the 80's. Some of you old Shelby types will probably
    >know who that was. The stripes on 67's and 68's were his trademark
    >restoration touch. Personally I think they look out of place because
    >they just don't fit like the 65 and 66's. As for transmissions, change
    >it to what you want, just keep the orginal one for later. My opinion,
    >however humble. SEE Y'ALL Lee


    I agree with Lee completely on this subject. I just have never really
    liked LeMans stripes on 67-68's. The trend a few years ago was to remove
    stripes from most 65-66 restorations, but I also think they never looked
    right without the stripes. I don't think it has really been an issue on
    69-70's, but I think they are out of place there too.

    I also agree with Lee on the transmission choice. Years ago we all passed
    on automatic cars for a 4 speed, but times are different and if the right
    car and the right deal is there, I would not pass on it because of
    transmission choice. If you plan to keep the car for a long time and drive
    and enjoy it, then get all the parts to do a swap and put what you want
    in there (the 5 speed conversion kits are pretty good these days for the
    small block cars), but keep all of the original parts, and never try to
    pass it off as something it wasn't.

    Calvin
    http://svsaac.com/ <<--our local club
    http://www.racecarstuff.com <<--my blog
    http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcalvin767 <<--my ebay stuff
     

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